Parsers make you stupid

[Suza]

Firstly, taking orbs should be tank's duty. Tank can take 3,4 at the same time with CDs, and the rest will be share within party. Melee do not need to go out and take orbs unless it's right next to you, for that is dps lost. Even when you want to take orbs, as melee 2 orbs are the limit. If the party don't do the mechanic, they will wipe. let them wipe for a couple times they'll realize, if not, just go for another party.
I main mnk too, and I assure you MNKs will dominate the dps chart if you play it right. Don't let those who don't play the class drag you down. I see Parse as a tool to make a better player, not a thing to harass others players.

[KyrsIsley]

Firstly, taking orbs should be tank's duty. Tank can take 3,4 at the same time with CDs, and the rest will be share within party. Melee do not need to go out and take orbs unless it's right next to you, for that is dps lost. Even when you want to take orbs, as melee 2 orbs are the limit. If the party don't do the mechanic, they will wipe. let them wipe for a couple times they'll realize, if not, just go for another party.
I main mnk too, and I assure you MNKs will dominate the dps chart if you play it right. Don't let those who don't play the class drag you down. I see Parse as a tool to make a better player, not a thing to harass others players.

^this. Ignorance makes people stupid. Parsers are just a means for them to harass you. Take some screenshots and report those people for harassment.

[Badkarma]

^this. Ignorance makes people stupid. Parsers are just a means for them to harass you. Take some screenshots and report those people for harassment.

LOL the amount of wrong in this one sentence.

[Theodric]

More and more people seem to be using them. I loathe them, to be honest - they bring the sort of toxicity into the game that I want to leave behind after encountering it in other MMO's.

[Fendred]

More and more people seem to be using them. I loathe them, to be honest - they bring the sort of toxicity into the game that I want to leave behind after encountering it in other MMO's.

For hard content youll be playing with people who probably all consent to thier use. The real problem is the toxicity they create in pf/df.

I could see an ingame parser for alex savage. A parser used in any other way is just harassment.

Parsers do not cause toxicity. Players doing the same static content over and over again builds toxicity. There is a point where players don't really want to be doing the content, but are there anyway because of the weekly grind or social agreements. Plus damage dealing isn't something intuitive enough for an untrained human being to pick up like tanking or healing. The signs that someone is doing it right are hidden in a mountain of numbers. The parser is just performing the courtesy of adding those up for you. Depending on perspective, the problem is either people not looking at the numbers in the context of the situation at hand or the very existence of damage dealer as a role.

[Gallus]

Parsers do not make people stupid.

People that are stupid are stupid with or without parsers.

[Badkarma]

Parsers do not make people stupid.

People that are stupid are stupid with or without parsers.

exactly correct

[Raxiaz]

Parsers do not make people stupid.

People that are stupid are stupid with or without parsers.

I just wanted to reiterate this wisdom in this thread... carry on. \o/

A personal in-game DPS meter that shows you and you alone how you're doing (and not anyone else) is the best we can ever hope to receive *because it doesn't open up anyone to abuse*. Again, we do not need to see what the DPS of anyone else is.. not because there aren't legitimate reasons for it, but because players can not be trusted to be mature with that information.

Also, I would be in support of a self-only parser.

[thunderbreak]

I think they were stupid before using parser...

[OvernightSiren]

Honestly the title of this thread makes you sound stupid and like you have a chip on your shoulder.