Parsers make you stupid

[loreleidiangelo]

I encounter tons of failure in Alex normal and the biggest identifiable cause of failure most of the time is lack of damage output. So no, I don't think being critical of the party's output is quite that idiotic.

I should have clarified - it's idiotic in the context of a group that is still clearing the fight with few, if any, incidents.

In the case of failure, I agree - it's important to look at causation, but that includes all factors, not just "someone's DPS is low".

tl;dr OP shouldn't be berated for doing "slightly" lower DPS while handling mechanics but should work on multi-tasking if they are doing "significantly" lower DPS and using "but mechanics!" as a blanket excuse.

[KaiKatzchen]

- OP speaking -

Op I am sorry this happened - all the advice I can give is report them. Personally I have never used one, but regardless of if they are helpful, used as a harassment tool, or used for other means, parser's have been banned from this game for over a year due to cheating (people were using them for more than just parsing and were adding other tools to them) and using them as a harassment tool. Maybe SE will turn a blind eye if no one talks about it - but start talking about it in game or harassing people with it, SE can pull up the logs and see what was said - and if they mentioned it they can go after them.

Example: Someone was slandering people in a PF and mentioned parser's, a person I know reported them for harassment and parser use. He had GM's talking to them within 5 minutes to get more information and said he was going to pull up the PF logs to verify, and that was two days ago. So they are taking it seriously.

Source:

Although we will continue to monitor game data to ensure that similar illegitimate practices are not being used, we would like to remind players that using third-party programs, parsers, or other tools to conduct actions players would not normally be able to do in the game is a violation of the Terms of Service, and will be dealt with strict disciplinary action.

Regarding Illegitimate Practices

[Bishop81]

To quote a former WoW developer,

Does Blizzard worry most about dps balance as raid tiers open, and not that much about balance as ppl start farming the tier?
Can't speak for it now, but when I was there, we worried more about new content than farmed content balance. (OccupyGStreet)
The idea being that a low performing spec might get sat on a new boss, but unlikely when stuff was on farm. (OccupyGStreet)
At some point we as a community started worrying about an individual's "right" to high DPS rather than the DPS of the entire raid. (OccupyGStreet)
Rather than "Did we beat the boss?" it became "Did I beat my warlock friend?" (OccupyGStreet)

[Sapphic]

That is because most mmo's support addons in some form that does that.

So far they kept saying addons will come so it is just a matter of time before one is more widespread.

Not to mention most MMOs arent cross platform support with consoles, by adding an in game official parser it puts PC and console users on the same footing. Third party addons are only useable on the PC.

[Chevrefoil]

Sadly nearly every other MMO in existence would disagree with this statement (WoW being one such) as this is one of the few games on the market that doesn't actually allow them to be used.

The only reason it "might" cause an issue at this point would be due to the rather large awakening, and subsequent backlash it might cause amongst the players against such features, but that too would eventually pass.

In the end it would actually help more than anything if the majority of endgame is going to continue to be designed with strict DPS checks in mind, nothing bad can come from educating your playerbase.

And having playing all of those MMO's with parsers, I feel that damage meters (non-personal ones) do much more harm than good in a community. Considering the climate in FFXIV, having an easily available damage meter woudl make it even worse.

[Valoiz]

Players who use Parser in DF are usually REALLY rude, "competitive" and easily can turn a game session into a nighmare for casual players. I think... if u cant handle ppl "underperforming" just stick with ur FC / static and deliver us from ur elitisms/complains

[Assirra]

Players who use Parser in DF are usually REALLY rude, "competitive" and easily can turn a game session into a nighmare for casual players. I think... if u cant handle ppl "underperforming" just stick with ur FC / static and deliver us from ur elitisms/complains

The problem with this logic is, that the game demands a certain thing of you to succeed. What if you simply under perform and the game saids "not enough DPS to finish this encounter"? Yell back it at that you are casual and demand the boss to drop down before you?

The whole "leave me alone, i do what i want" logic works till the game itself denies you, but then what?

[Ashkendor]

The problem with this logic is, that the game demands a certain thing of you to succeed. What if you simply under perform and the game saids "not enough DPS to finish this encounter"? Yell back it at that you are casual and demand the boss to drop down before you?

The whole "leave me alone, i do what i want" logic works till the game itself denies you, but then what?

I guess there's always the option of sticking your head in the sand till the encounter gets Echo. :3

[Malevicton]

Players who use Parser in DF are usually REALLY rude, "competitive" and easily can turn a game session into a nighmare for casual players. I think... if u cant handle ppl "underperforming" just stick with ur FC / static and deliver us from ur elitisms/complains

Except really you have no idea how many people parse. It's not only the people who bring it up. For each rude person using a parser you've run into I'm willing to bet there were 15+ that you had no idea were parsing. Bad encounters always stick out more in people's memory.

[Fendred]

To quote a former WoW developer,

Yeah, I recall that transition occurring fairly early in WoW's history. It just became more prevalent as time went on. However, there has never been a game that uses the tank, healer, and damage dealer roles whose end game didn't devolve into a parser fest. The damage dealer role itself is the flaw, not parsers. Either that or blame human nature, but since games are there to cater to human nature I generally blame the trinity.

Also, it feels like more end game groups are using parsers now then they were in FFXIV 2.0, which is similar to my experience in virtually every other MMORPG using the trinity. It's pretty much inevitable.