Parsers make you stupid

[DkDerek]

Tell the tanks to get the orbs. Your job is to do damage. Have low dps? You're not doing your job.

If your tank is still being a shitlord, find a way to get orbs, AND do high damage. Moving away from the boss for a split second does not put your dps in the toilet.

[Yshnal]

Just the other day I had someone trash talk (no, not giving constructive criticism) about a dps (healer main) because he was doing less dps than what they thought that they should in A3. That after having killed the boss fine two times without any wipe, and even skipping half a phase on both runs... Who cares if we take one minute more, at most, to kill that boss if we're killing it perfectly fine. Their alternative? Break up the party, GG. Honestly, I was as tank and I had already looted, but some people really know how to get to my nerves.

Some people are really stupid, and I'm sorry for saying this but it's the truth (ok, I'm not sorry, because it's the hard truth). And that's why I've always said that it's a BAD idea to let the masses access parsers, because for every player that uses them well you have at least ten that don't and create a bad mood in the game. I'm finding more and more people like that these days, as parsers seem to be becoming more popular for some reason.

Please, cut this now while you can by giving us a personal in-game parser somewhere (on the dummies, for instance, as suggested many times), and completely banning any kind of modification or add-on to the game.

[FaileExperiment]

You should be self-conscious. This is a group activity. IRL, if you are on a team or at work and see that you are clearly under-performing compared to your colleagues, most human beings would attempt to better themselves so they don't feel the shame of letting the group down. Why can't this aspect of social behavior be extended to a game where you must socialize to succeed?

That's horrible. No game should ever make someone feel shame at not meeting other's arbitrary expectations. wtf is that? You want that?

[Assirra]

That's horrible. No game should ever make someone feel shame at not meeting other's arbitrary expectations. wtf is that? You want that?

You can choose to not be part of it you know.

Also, multiplayer games rely on you know, people working together.

[Badkarma]

Tell the tanks to get the orbs. Your job is to do damage. Have low dps? You're not doing your job.

If your tank is still being a shitlord, find a way to get orbs, AND do high damage. Moving away from the boss for a split second does not put your dps in the toilet.

Most orbs should be handled by a combination of ranged and healers.

[FaileExperiment]

You can choose to not be part of it you know.

Also, multiplayer games rely on you know, people working together.

absolutely. but people working together to accomplish something has nothing to do with shaming people, of all things in a game, and then thinking that is not only fine, but desirable. Totally messed up thinking. In fact, quite the opposite of being sociable and working together.

[Catwho]

As a bard main, I like to keep an eye on my own DPS via the parse - in case I need to fend off baseless accusations of being the lowest DPS. If my numbers are consistent with what I expect, I'm usually happy even if I am a bit lower than everyone else. If someone is performing more poorly than I am and they're a DRG or a MNK, I laugh it off generally because they need to git gud.

But I NEVER share my parse results outside of my FC's facebook group, and even that inadvertently caused some drama because we have a free company with four bards in it so we can do some serious apples to apples in 8 man content.

[Kona_Nightwind]

That's horrible. No game should ever make someone feel shame at not meeting other's arbitrary expectations. wtf is that? You want that?

It's called the real world, not the we don't keep score, everones a winner, and gets a participation trophy crappie forced on kids today. Now I have to put up with kids that expect to be carried and run crying reporting harassment because someone was mean. The truth is regardless of it being a video game these are real people and no one wants to carry dead weight.

[Ferth]

And? What's the point of saying this? Of course there's nothing inherently wrong with parsers. SE has one of their own. The problem is the community at large cannot be trusted to us them properly such that they do far far more harm then good.

What is the point of this whole thread?

As long as square enix is going to have content that requires people to play top tier with little to no margin for error people are going to use parsers. Square enix can say they aren't allowed, you can dislike them all you want. The point of my comment was that parsers don't cause asshats to be asshats. If that tank didn't have a parser he still would have been just as vocal about the group's inability to clear content.

Someone had a negative player interaction in a game that requires no accountability for players to not be terrible people? You can blame it on whatever you want but as long as you play with random people this will be a relatively large risk you take.

[Onikimaru]

Parsers are nice, but give people tunnel vision. I used them in WoW forever. But I refuse to use them here. I enjoy this game for what it is.

Then the people using them shouldn't be using them, obviously. It is fine to use a parser as long as its for personal progression, not to stare at.