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    Player
    Meya's Avatar
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    Trixie Moon
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Kona_Nightwind View Post
    Learning is fine, if the group is ok with it. Parsers also show damage taken so you can see what is killing people. But we already have tools to see people who don't do mechanics, eyeballs and healers. You're right about the parser and high dps. You just have to go to a Web page where some math nerd took a bunch of parses and crunched the numbers to figure out the optimal way to play the class. BTW I love you math nerds and all the people who put in the time and work on theory crafting.
    Can a parser show a tank's TP because when I played a ninja I never knew when to throw out a goude >> Think they'd allow us to see TP already.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Meya View Post
    Can a parser show a tank's TP because when I played a ninja I never knew when to throw out a goude >> Think they'd allow us to see TP already.
    'course the tank could always have a macro to ping party chat with a message, something like; "MT TP < 150, please help."
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ivyblue View Post
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    Parsers are good, but stop playing with trash already lol. if someone bat mouthed my dps and I was getting targeted often with mechanics I'd hang him out to dry. It takes a moron to reach that level of stupidity.
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    Alexander_Dragonfang's Avatar
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Parsers are a tool, tools are not to blame for their missuse, is not a hammer`s fault that someone kills other with it.

    The intended use of parsers is to see and evaluate performance, people usually don`t know how to evaluate and how to generate a good evualation and performance increase enviroment, and then, you have mmorpg people which is just worse. They faithfully think they are doing just fine when they say "uhh, you suck scrub, DPS too low". They think they are great and that will motivate you to perform better.
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    Delmania Shadowstar
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    Diabolos
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by averageamn View Post
    Instead of using a one-liner with an era 2000 emoticon, could you expand?
    You missed the point. He was "underperforming", and yet the dungeon was cleared in 16 minutes. Parsers make people focus on a number, not clearing content.
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    Waliel Hla
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I'll be quoting myself, because I'm lazy, but I'd like to remind everyone about this neat tidbit about parsing:

    Quote Originally Posted by Waliel View Post
    There's more to parsing than just DPS. We did our first real venture into T13 this thursday and kept wondering why is our WHM randomly dying on Megaflare stacks. Checking out our trusty parser, it turned out she was hit twice by Megaflare for 5k+. We adjusted by telling everyone to spread out a little more and never had the issue again.
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    Yoshi-P is doing his best and is patching Endwalker. Please wait warmly until it is ready.

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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Waliel View Post
    I'll be quoting myself, because I'm lazy, but I'd like to remind everyone about this neat tidbit about parsing:
    I'm pretty sure your WHM's battle log could have revealed that information as well, no parser required.
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    Yawn Alexander
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Your WHM couldn't tell they were hit by megaflare without a parser?
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    Player dragorian's Avatar
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    Blueberry Haze
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    Siren
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Who the heck need's an parser all you need to do is set up your battle log to show your dmg and do the math it's not hard heck you can also tell you is lacking or over compasating I'd this and as an whm I know my hps also I have never had an issue with others about dps or hps is low I set up my rot before hand for the content I'm doing and you can tell by just watching what the person is doing
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    Yolanda Freebush
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by dragorian View Post
    Who the heck need's an parser all you need to do is set up your battle log to show your dmg
    I said this once in another thread about not having a sanctioned parser, man did I hear about it.
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