Don't misslead people about what their job does, please

[Fyrebrand]

I wonder if people are coming in from WoW, where even after you've chosen a class there is still some wiggle room for what role you will play in a dungeon party. For example, in WoW you could be a Warrior, but there is a tanking spec and a DPS spec. A Priest can potentially be a healer or a DPS. And a Druid can actually be anything. It just depends on what talents you pick later on.

When I first started playing FFXIV, I honestly didn't really understand the difference between Conjurer and Thaumaturge. I figured they were both some flavours of "mage," but not that one was a dedicated healer and one was a dedicated damage dealer. I figured maybe my chosen skills, or cross-class abilities, would further hone my role in a group. But nope. It was a lot more rigid than I realized.

Games really should spell this out for people. I know these concepts are elementary for people who are used to MMOs -- but if a game is going to hinge on certain strongly-enforced mechanics, then it behooves the designers to make sure players can have no doubt about what those mechanics are.

[Unglitteringold]

I wonder if people are coming in from WoW, where even after you've chosen a class there is still some wiggle room for what role you will play in a dungeon party. For example, in WoW you could be a Warrior, but there is a tanking spec and a DPS spec. A Priest can potentially be a healer or a DPS. And a Druid can actually be anything. It just depends on what talents you pick later on.

I came from WoW and when I was doing research about what class to roll in FFXIV I read about job crystals. I assumed that there would be job crystals that could be used to play different roles. To this day I'm confused as to why each class only has one job crystal to go with it. Why can't GLA transition into a tank OR a DPS? Why can't Lancers and monks become tanks?
Why can't archers become DPS if they don't want to be a support class? It seems like SE is missing a golden opportunity here to use job crystals to create a more diverse set of classes that people can explore. This would also be a great way to give people reasons to go back to low level zones/dungeons and help to give more pre-endgame content to have fun with.
But back to the topic at hand - I agree that it should be made more clear that if you roll Gladiator or Marauder (neither of which even SOUND like tank classes) you will be a tank, or make all tank/healer classes like Arcanist where you can branch out.

[ElieDavion]

But back to the topic at hand - I agree that it should be made more clear that if you roll Gladiator or Marauder (neither of which even SOUND like tank classes) you will be a tank, or make all tank/healer classes like Arcanist where you can branch out.

wont every happen again for the trouble they went through that cuz to fix 1 job they might create a prob for the other job.
dont get me wrong it would be nice to have multible job crystals for a job so i could be dps gladi or whatever but wont happen

[Tuathaa]

I wonder if people are coming in from WoW, where even after you've chosen a class there is still some wiggle room

Not just wow but just about every mmo say what the intended role of that class is at the creation screen.
Knowing how the classes and jobs work now I can say it doesn't bother me but when I first started I was surprised to find out that a marauder had no dps option when I q'd the first time.

[Kaedan]

When you queue, it's clear as day what job you are. It says in huge letters: Tank, Healer or Damage (could say DPS, can't remember right now).

[odie]

When you queue, it's clear as day what job you are. It says in huge letters: Tank, Healer or Damage (could say DPS, can't remember right now).

As this was my first MMO I didn't know anything about what a tank or a dps was. Everyone just assumes you know these things but the terminology was something I struggled with for a while playing the game

[AlphaFox]

Unless you completely ignored or skipped the lessons or quests practically teaching you as a tank to grab aggro from the NPCs being attacked or as a healer to keep everyone alive, your kinda on your own there I would say. I admit gladiator at first did seem like a swordsman but you find out quick its a tank and thus either grow to accept it or end up being laughed at.

[OliviaBadger]

This is my first MMO, and when i started I picked gladiator. As far as I was aware, it was a dude with a sword. No idea what a tank was, never even heard the term "tank" or "dps" in my life. All I remember was wondering why the mobs seemed to attack me more than other people in fates and my first dungeon.

[echoica]

This is my first MMO, and when i started I picked gladiator. As far as I was aware, it was a dude with a sword. No idea what a tank was, never even heard the term "tank" or "dps" in my life. All I remember was wondering why the mobs seemed to attack me more than other people in fates and my first dungeon.

I know exactly what you are saying. My first MMO as well and I picked BLM, way back almost 2 years ago now, because it sounded cool. I really had no idea what it did! I do remember spamming blizzard 2 a lot in my first dungeons LOL

[matteoxyz]

I had no idea I had chosen tank when I started either as a Marauder. The class descriptions in character creation are extremely vague. I think they want to trick people into being tank to improve queue times ^_^