Gear Progression Continues to Make Little Sense

[Rafaelhades]

But that was what people were asking for, the ability to see the story reward of the raid without putting in the effort asked of them during Coil. Surely people weren't telling untrue stories on the internet in order to get pretty shinies that look like they're from difficult content but are actually handed to them just for clicking that "Join" button.

Or you could kill two birds with one stone and give the whiners their cake while ensuring that the content they created was seen by everyone. One would think that both sides would be happy, but it seems to have created a 3rd party, confused and angry that all of the gearing options given to them isn't as transparent and instantly gratifying.

[Obysuca]

This would create a logic gear progression path rather than creating an entire set of completely redundant i190 gear that is about to be replaced within the next couple of weeks while also following some actual logic in ilevel requirements rewards.

I actually thought it'd be better if they had made CT type gear's ilvl in between the tome gear and upgraded(like 200 for tome, 205 for "CT", 210 upgraded tome/alex), so you have something to wear until you upgrade it, but SE seems to love outdating stuff at light speed which is just a waste of development :/

[Malevicton]

Or you could kill two birds with one stone and give the whiners their cake while ensuring that the content they created was seen by everyone. One would think that both sides would be happy, but it seems to have created a 3rd party, confused and angry that all of the gearing options given to them isn't as transparent and instantly gratifying.

p1: "I want raisin cookies!"
p2: "I want oatmeal cookies!"
SE: "Okay, we'll make both cookies! Here you go. Enjoy!"
p1-2: "THESE COOKIES AREN'T INDIVIDUALLY LABELLED WTF AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THIS?!?!"
SE: "You can just look at the-"
p1-2: "NO REMAKE THE COOKIES! THESE COOKIES ARE ILLOGICAL!"

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

I agree with you. i think there should have been some kind of content that's harder then alex normal to get the lvl 200 gear. But if they make anything difficult at all everyone just complains, so this is what we got. Top end gear from grinding fates and easy dungeons.

[Bishop81]

It's important to note that vendor gear exist to give a leg up to raiders who are stuck as well as offer gear progression for non-raiders.

[Luciano_Bozzelli]

So many close i-levels? I thought he did it to try to get a little more lateral in a vertical world.

[StrejdaTom]

Alexander Story Mode is far away from hard. But I agree items from there should be i200 to be on par with unupgraded eso.

[Ronyx]

Why do you need i200 gear to farm i145 dungeons? All you are really telling me here is how the current system works. Thank you, but I was able to figure that out myself.

It doesn't mean that it makes logical sense. Gear progression is actually a very simple concept. You collect lower level gear until you can take on harder content (as expressed by required iLevel) to get even better gear. But this game seems to follow this maybe half the time and then we get silly explanations like "oh that gear is actually meant for your secondary classes."

This just straight up poor, illogical design.

Well They will keep adding more content that will requiere more ilevel. When 3.1 comes we most likely have 3 new dungeons with maybe minimum ilevel of 170 or 180 and etc as more Patches come... harder dungeons will show up. They are just slowly preparing us for that.

[Dorfentyme]

Well They will keep adding more content that will requiere more ilevel. When 3.1 comes we most likely have 3 new dungeons with maybe minimum ilevel of 170 or 180 and etc as more Patches come... harder dungeons will show up. They are just slowly preparing us for that.

I'm not entirely convinced that the content patches of Heavensward are going to be as large as the content patches in 2.0 were. 2.0 launched with how many dungeons(16)? Heavensward launched with 8. 2.0 had guildhests. Heavensward had none(content is content, and guildhests were a decent boost in exp every 5 levels). 2.0 had hunting log. Heavensward didn't extend this at all, just took the hunting feature that was already present and slapped level 53/56/59 version to it. And, even though the zones in Heavensward are a decent size, you can move through each one really quickly. Hell, even the leves were just copied and pasted into Heavensward, so no real effort was done there. I really hope that 3.0 is not a sign of things to come. They gave less content, while expecting people to level all their jobs from 50-60 and Square wanting it to be as long as 1-50 was. Bad idea. I'm not looking forward to fate grinding 50-60. Yeah, I could do roulettes, but I did those long before Heavensward, and I'm kinda over that. I want to run new content, not old content. I think the fact that N. Thanalan was the place to be to level up your alts showed how little they thought that through.

Before someone says something ridiculous like "If you hate it so much why don't you quit playing it?!". I love the game still, just merely pointing out my observations that Heavensward under delivered in certain areas with the content. You can love something and still have criticisms.

[Krylo]

p1: "I want raisin cookies!"
p2: "I want oatmeal cookies!"
SE: "Okay, we'll make both cookies! Here you go. Enjoy!"
p1-2: "THESE COOKIES AREN'T INDIVIDUALLY LABELLED WTF AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THIS?!?!"
SE: "You can just look at the-"
p1-2: "NO REMAKE THE COOKIES! THESE COOKIES ARE ILLOGICAL!"

No one wants raisin cookies.

Can not accept analogy.