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  1. #21
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    Peachy's Avatar
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    Pichichi Pichi
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    Sargatanas
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    Miner Lv 55
    Funny how I can do this with some healers and its very smooth, and some just cant seem to keep up so I change, and your small dps isnt making up for it. Yes there are a ton of bad tanks, but look at yourself before blaming others as well.

    But what Im really tired of is the judgements. You cant please everyone and each healer expects you to play how they want you to. Ive been yelled at for not using dps mode, and Ive been yelled at for using dps mode. I think you healers should worry more about healing and if you hate it so bad blame SE for giving us the ability to dps.
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  2. #22
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    Merida Quigg
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 80
    Hmm I haven't gotten my healer up in HW yet, but I could see how this would be annoying. The problem I see here is simply people not playing WAR correctly. Example (I main WAR) on big pulls be in defiance, use big CDs then smaller ones as the mind drop, is the healer still good on mana and CDs? Switch to deliverance to help finish the trash. On bosses, be in defiance infuriate, blood bath, berserk, unchained after unchained drops off if the boss isn't doing a lot of damage switch to deliverance and dps while popping CDs. That is how I play WAR, the people are most likely just excited about the new stance. Once they figure it out then it will be fine. Until then please bear with them, *bows to apologize.
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  3. #23
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    Pikachu_Pizza's Avatar
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    Rainbow Pikachu
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    Exodus
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    I think WAR look cool from a solo undersize prespective but PLD is the easiest to heal generally. I do find a lot of tanks can be total garbage so when I finally level my tank it will probably be a PLD.

    As a healer I can't put that dps tank bs into this world
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  4. #24
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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 77
    I've largely giving up healing for dungeons cause of things like this. I mostly just tank for dungeons now and see my role as making the healer's life as easy as possible. I tend to keep tanking stances on all the time unless I'm just not taking a lot of damage(things like the demon book in library and such), or occasionally pop vengance to go to deliverance and berserk a couple fell cleaves then switch back. I've made it known in other places how annoying it is that some tanks are so obsessed with playing dps.
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  5. #25
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    Parawill's Avatar
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    Spark Joy
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Peachy;3179793[B
    ]Funny how I can do this with some healers and its very smooth, and some just cant seem to keep up so I change, and your small dps isnt making up for it.[/B] Yes there are a ton of bad tanks, but look at yourself before blaming others as well.

    But what Im really tired of is the judgements. You cant please everyone and each healer expects you to play how they want you to. Ive been yelled at for not using dps mode, and Ive been yelled at for using dps mode. I think you healers should worry more about healing and if you hate it so bad blame SE for giving us the ability to dps.
    Two way street. We get blamed for DPSing and healing. We get blamed for healing and not DPSing. Tanks get blamed for DPSing and tanking efficiently. Tanks get blamed for tanking only. Two. Way. Street.

    Of course we have the "healers not healing enough because in Cleric Stance" or "tanks taking too much damage because not popping CDs and in deliverance." Not necessarily judgement (at least, speaking for myself anyways), but anywho, to each of their own.
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  6. #26
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    If they can handle it then it's fine. The only time things bother me is when Tanks bite off more than they can chew in regards to what they pull and how they handle it. I'd rather people stay within their limits than make me have to constantly panic heal racing against huge HP chunks being lost each second. Seen plenty who manage to stance dance all the time it takes practice but can be an effective way to boost DPS much like Healer stance dancing.

    I guess as a WHM I have it a bit easier because holy stuns mean you go several seconds before needing to heal the Tank at all.
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  7. #27
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    Kurai_Miu's Avatar
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    Amai Pan
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    I honestly have no issue with tanks in dps stance. I guess my only real issue is those tanks who do dps stance but can't hold there Aggro which oddly is more common then I would like. Tank is my main role so I can tell good ones from bad ones war will be the next I level to max once my whm 60 then I'll have all tanks at 60.
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  8. #28
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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurai_Miu View Post
    I honestly have no issue with tanks in dps stance. I guess my only real issue is those tanks who do dps stance but can't hold there Aggro which oddly is more common then I would like.
    I don't honestly know how a tank could do it against decent dps. In ex roulette on my pld(which has the ilvl 180 weapon) if I get good dps I can hold mobs but the aggro meters on dps are uncomfortably high. I couldn't imagine trying to hold stuff without the aggro bonus on tank stances.
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  9. #29
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    Merida Quigg
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    Ultros
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yorumi View Post
    I don't honestly know how a tank could do it against decent dps. In ex roulette on my pld(which has the ilvl 180 weapon) if I get good dps I can hold mobs but the aggro meters on dps are uncomfortably high. I couldn't imagine trying to hold stuff without the aggro bonus on tank stances.
    I agree that is why I am in defiance first, makes it easier on the healers and keeps the dps from grabbing aggro. Tanks are under estimating dps. (Ilvl 186, strength build, Rav weapon)
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  10. #30
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    Drago Xhula
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    i think most tanks currently don't realize how much aggro a DPS can get because of the massive amount of aggro the DRK has which borders on being outright absurd to the point they can out aggro a tank in their tank stance while using there DPS stance...
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