So what is the general consensus for the new mode?

[EdgyLatinName]

Because the majority I hear from are getting really tired watching two sets of hills repeatedly spawn right outside a GC's spawn.

It's infuriating actually, oh maybe this time they'll spawn in some different areas, nah.

[Guesswhat]

Overall it sucks. Not because of the mode but because people can't play. We'll see after the hype is down how it "really" is.

[Dyvid]

Because the majority I hear from are getting really tired watching two sets of hills repeatedly spawn right outside a GC's spawn.

It's infuriating actually, oh maybe this time they'll spawn in some different areas, nah.

Honestly, it's more of the same, guard area. SE is really lacking in pvp variety.

[Blubbers]

I might be in the minority it, but I enjoy it a lot. The RNG can be extremely frustrating, but it makes it so every game is pretty unique and there's no "set" plan like the other frontlines modes. There's a lot of "OH S*$&" going on when you get a bad spawn or 2 groups happen to converge on each other, and that's some of the best part of PvPing.

The RNG also acts sort of as a balancer against one GC dominating over and over and admittedly makes it less competive. In Secure or Slaughter you could roll with a strong premade and almost guarantee your team was going to win. Here having a premade definitely helps a lot, but nothing is guaranteed. I even enjoy the random spawn points because it keeps it fresh - as an adder I almost never got to enjoy Sun Temple, I heard there was a lot of room for activities over there. In the new map I get to explore the caves, enjoy some quality time on the beach, and go climbing some hills, it's great.

My favorite part is when you're holding a point and there's a narrow corridor where numbers count for nothing that you're defending, and it basically feels like you're Sparta in 300.

I think a lot of the strategies are still being developed, and there's a lot of situations where you get in and nobody has a healer leveled yet, but over time these issues will go away. I don't even use half my new moves currently because I'm just not used to using them in pvp, so I'm pretty excited to see how I'll improve over time.

I still think secure 72-man was my favorite pvp experience in ff14 due to the fact that you actually got some 8v8 competitive battles going on, but seize is a substantial improvement from 72-man slaughter and it gives you both large scale and small scale (2v2, 1v1, etc...) battles that all occur organically.

I would still love to see a lot of changes, some 8v8 maps, removal of GC restrictions, etc... but as a standalone map I think Seize is a great addition.

[Aiden_Volkov]

They must put 24 and 8 people matches so it will be fater to find them and we can Play because play is what we want without spent/lose times and in my opinion, lb must be unstopable and faster so we can kill much and more :P ahh! and PUT X10 experience or something similar

[Risvertasashi]

I like it more than slaughter. Overall it's alright. Nothing special, nor is it bad.

[Buff_Archer]

I think knowing the terrain in and out eventually will help as well, I've headed to spawn points where I see a lot of teammates on the map but Oh no! I'm underneath it and it's just me and 5 people from an enemy team! I also think I know that choke point Blubbers is talking about (any chance of you transferring to Diabolos and joining Adders btw you'd be very welcome here ) and had fun defending it against large numbers with just me and one other. Threw up a shadowflare to deter people from walking in, and used the rocks to LoS any other casters trying to get me from the other side.

[CeveArthu]

Wolves den > 72 man secure > 72 man Sieze > 24 man secure > watching paint dry > doing taxes > teaching the amish to use iphones > slaughter

[Mutemutt]

I'm pretty much of the same mind as Blubbers.

I'd also like to say that I really like that they actually use most of the map this time and it has way more interesting terrain to work with compared to the previous frontline modes.

[Nalien]

I love it, only thing I'd perhaps prefer is 48-player Secure, but SE saw fit to remove the best version of Secure for reasons, and I'm not sure I can stand Secure anymore with now that I'm an Adrenaline junkie... I really enjoy not having a set game plan and actually having to adapt during the match, 48-player Secure offered that by having two parties and three points to go after, Seize offers it by being very random. Add to that Battle High/Fever acting like a sort of PvP version of Hunts and I'm loving it to bits.

Randomized elements potentially screwing your team over is something I really don't mind. Actually in such situations I quite like working against a handicap, makes victory even sweeter. The actual PvP in Seize I think is far better than Secure and worlds better than Slaughter, though. Don't really mind if my team comes last if I'm enjoying the PvP itself.