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  1. #21
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    Nekodar's Avatar
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    By the time you could craft i180s, we were all in i180s and moving towards i190s anyways ...
    In 2.0, people were going for i70 crafted when there was i90 available with myths and coil. Some didn't even upgrade until 2.2.
    i180 crafted have a place.
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  2. #22
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    In 2.0, people were going for i70 crafted when there was i90 available with myths and coil. Some didn't even upgrade until 2.2.
    i180 crafted have a place.
    Except secondary stats this time around are weighted much much less this time around compared to the primary stats.
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    lordoftheapes79's Avatar
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    Lil'bit Gnawdy
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Except secondary stats this time around are weighted much much less this time around compared to the primary stats.
    But there will always be people that want the crafting shortcut into raids and I180 melded is going to be the fastest way in there. It's still going to take time to get Alex normal drops and the I180 melded is easier to get than farming enough law/centurio to get upgraded gear.
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  4. #24
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    Aleksandr Deicide
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    Yep, the disparity between the stat change across ilvl vs the max stats reasonably available w/ 5 materia is noticeably larger now than in 2.X.
    Also the value of secondary stats has gone down by ~66% across the board, which again severely reduces the value of the max available melds.
    Granted this is for DoW/DoM classes, the stat increases were not nearly as high for DoH/DoL... Just reinforces the idea that the devs want High End Adventuring and High End Crafting/Gathering to be very separate things.
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    Chrillix Khross
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    In 2.0, people were going for i70 crafted when there was i90 available with myths and coil. Some didn't even upgrade until 2.2.
    i180 crafted have a place.
    You could also craft the new gear the day it was released. Materials weren't gated at all like they are now.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrillix View Post
    You could also craft the new gear the day it was released. Materials weren't gated at all like they are now.
    I know. They were just gated behind farming tomes day out and day in, or pay others through the nose to do the same.
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  7. #27
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    Ferth Fontaine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    I know. They were just gated behind farming tomes day out and day in, or pay others through the nose to do the same.
    You say that as of this new system is somehow an improvement on that model.
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  8. #28
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    Nekodar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    You say that as of this new system is somehow an improvement on that model.
    I'm saying it wasn't very good either.
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  9. #29
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    Zalera
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    As a mastercrafter, i won`t bother anymore.

    Honestly, this system was designed with NEETs in mind, only the richest players, which are the ones that happend to most free time, will keep playing, the rest, probably won`t make it, not if you wan`t to also do side activities like leveling combat classes, raid, pvp, etc. I say enough is enough. If the requisite to keep being a mastercrafter who only makes subpar gear, glamours and housing items that have no market edge is to persue a ridiculous weekly cap, i out, honestly.

    Congratulations SE, you finally killed crafting.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordoftheapes79 View Post
    But there will always be people that want the crafting shortcut into raids and I180 melded is going to be the fastest way in there. It's still going to take time to get Alex normal drops and the I180 melded is easier to get than farming enough law/centurio to get upgraded gear.
    i180 Melded gear is slower and harder to get than upgraded gear. For a max melded piece you're looking at atleast 80 million.
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