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  1. #1
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    DarthBuzzer's Avatar
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    Blueberry Bandit
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    Alchemist Lv 70

    Please save Crafting. Remove weekly limit on Red Scrips.

    As it currently stands, 2 Star Crafting is behind an enormous wall of unparalleled gating the likes of which we've never seen.

    To craft any 2 star item, you first need rare materials or RNG-related materials such as Demimateria as well as 7/8 and 8/8 aetherial reduction mats, and mats from legendary nodes. Now that is about 10 percent of the weight of the total mats. The other 90 percent is locked behind red scrips. So let's now sum up how to get this other 90 percent:

    First you need Grandmaster of the Land to even have any hope of gaining red gatherer scrips at a rate close to naught. Before we move further into Gathering Scrips, let's talk about crafting scrips. So you need to craft 20-30 0 star items to get capped on red scrips. Then you can buy 9 tokens max. So what about Gathering? Well you need to get red scrips for favor buffs to get required mats. Except, you can only get 60 scrips an hour with all Gatherers at 60. Then you take these scrips and get your 9 tokens for 9 favor buffs a week.

    So you collect the ultra-rare favor mats and take them to Idyllshire. Now you trade your 9 crafting tokens along with these ultra-rare favor mats for anywhere between 27-45 impossibly rare mats. THESE are the mats that make up the other 90%. With the weekly scrip limit you can only craft 2 items with these mats unless you buy them. But these mats are essentially Kingly Whiskers in that they are so incredibly rare in supply that they will sell for millions.

    Right, so you can craft 2 items a week but to make any worthwhile profit you'd have to sell these items for over 50 million. This includes battle gear. No, that would be higher because they require more scrips. So you're looking at billions of Gil to buy full unmelded sets for your 8 crafters. And battle gear? No one is going to shell out 60 million for an i180 piece that has the same model as the i160 version.

    As it currently stands, I can't enjoy the difficulty and engagement in crafting 2 stars because I'm limited to 2 a week, which I also need myself to gear up rather than sell. Essentially, 2 stars are harder to obtain then i210 gear.

    Please fix this Square. Get rid of the weekly limit for scrips or allow DoW / DoM to buy these like in 2.xx. Also, award more red scrips for gatherers because it's painfully low as they are locked via unspoiled nodes. (Seriously? You lock a weekly limit behind an hourly limit?)
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    Last edited by DarthBuzzer; 07-24-2015 at 07:05 AM.

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    Chrillix Khross
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    The gating might be the worst I've ever seen. Instead of the dev's putting time into developing rich content, it seems like they spend their time figuring out how the can draw everything out for as long as possible.
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    I'm a prolific crafter and even I'm not wasting time with this. It's ridiculous.
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    Ferth Fontaine
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by chrillix View Post
    The gating might be the worst I've ever seen. Instead of the dev's putting time into developing rich content, it seems like they spend their time figuring out how the can draw everything out for as long as possible.
    The devs for this game in particular are masterful at making things needlessly complex. I think they are mistaking complexity for depth.
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    The Gated Script system is garbage.

    By the time we can craft i180 pieces for a not quite so insane price, the people who could have afforded them will be in full i200+.
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  6. #6
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    Lil'bit Gnawdy
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I think there is a culture shock happening here. We will need time to adjust. It looks like we're going to have to rely on others more than we have in the past as far as crafting goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordoftheapes79 View Post
    I think there is a culture shock happening here. We will need time to adjust. It looks like we're going to have to rely on others more than we have in the past as far as crafting goes.
    You can't rely on others because then they loose out completely. You can only work with gatherers but even then they may get shorthanded as they'd get better prices on the market for their limited weekly supply.. Time won't sort this out. It will always be an issue due to the weekly limits.
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  8. #8
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    Sable Swan
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    Siren
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Rely on others to do what exactly? Make left side gear that can hold its own against upgraded Law once you've thrown a few hundred thousand gil in materia costs at it? And just to spit in the wound, the bodies are copypastas so they don't even have glamour value.
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    Last edited by XLauncher; 07-24-2015 at 10:54 AM.

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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    I'm trying to get my fc to collaborate and pool their tokens to one person for main hands. Other than that, I hate how crafters only make stuff for crafters now. And you still need to omnicraft to do anything...
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    Deaths Mistress
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    Malboro
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    The market was still unsaturated before this patch, and moving healthy numbers. Why stifle this with a ridiculous gate?
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