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  1. #41
    Player
    Eisenhower's Avatar
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    Meera Khei
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Picori View Post
    I really don't understand these posts. 450 is fine as you can do one job. You plain on taking more then one job to savage?
    This shit right here. This is exactly why it's capped. Esoteric gear is limited because it stops players for stacking pure numbers against Savage and forcing groups to perform. Think of the DPS check on Faust or the tank-busters that would become much easier with more armour and stronger weapons.

    If a player isn't doing Savage that player doesn't even need Esoteric gear for anything other than glamour. Sure, people might want Esoteric gear because it's stronger but for all non-savage content right now the Law gear is more than sufficient.
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  2. #42
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    TinyMonster's Avatar
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    Soushie Monster
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Im nowhere near getting my Eso gear but I like the way it is now.. No more Allagan Tombstones to get my weapon! Thank you SE!!
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    Last edited by TinyMonster; 07-23-2015 at 09:31 PM. Reason: Typo

  3. #43
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    Pluvia's Avatar
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    Pluvia Zephyr
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AriaEnia View Post
    I just hope they're dyeable straightaway, but I must be dreaming for it to happen.
    According to the database esoteric gear are dyeable
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  4. #44
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    Drako's Avatar
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    Drako Lombardi
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Id be ok with the cap if the gear was still for multiple jobs. But now that it is specific, it really pigeon holes you into one job for 2months. If they used the same model as the myth tomes gear, it would of costed less to get the gear. That way you could gear a 2nd class in the same time frame as 1. And you didn't even have to upgrade the myth gear. So people were able to become flexible with their jobs much sooner. It's just not good not being able to be flexible for hard content. For just PVE content, it doesn't make any difference. I'd be happy to just wait until uh October to have my 2nd job geared up, because it wouldn't really matter. I wish the law gear was closer to the esoteric gear for ilvl. That way your secondary job isn't just outright dismissed from hard content. I think 600 tomes would be just right, not too less, not too much. 900 was way too much. I mean there may of been people that could grind that out. But I think there was only one week I capped that, it was just too much.

    As for the dying, just look at the gear at the upgrade vendor. You will see clearly a dye on it. That's your clue its dyeable.
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  5. #45
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by madolyn View Post
    because everyone wants to play one class in a game where you can play all classes
    You can. Just don't expect that you can get BiS gear for all classes in just some weeks and that you can ignore every 2nd best and 3rd best gear.

    If you do Alex savage, gear up first the job you use for Alex savage. If you don't do Alex Savage, then it is not important anyway.
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    Last edited by Felis; 07-23-2015 at 09:51 PM.

  6. #46
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    I wonder when the EN forum can mature into a place where everyone's opinions are respected and you either argue sensibly or stay out of the thread. Meme replies are like..."I am unable to say something more catchy but Senpai Please Notice Me---oh hey ma look I'm on TV---so I'm gonna post this meme."
    we're taught to try and stand out from the crowd. we weren't taught HOW to do it, though...
    And that's how the special snowflake was born.
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  7. #47
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I want to play multiple classes =/= I need multiple classes in BiS ready for savage

    You can still get 180-190 gear for alts. 3.1 will probably have plenty of catch-up avenues. No one needs more esoterics for anything right now.
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

  8. #48
    Player
    Drako's Avatar
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    Drako Lombardi
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    You don't need them, we do. There's a difference. Clearly your not worried about a 2nd job. It's a shame because flexibility is king when it comes to end game content. There were many times I swapped back and forth between jobs in coil(i.e. I'm a tank main, I played blm for T9 sense one tank strat is best). If I didn't have the availability due to oh well all I can have is soldiery gear, then it wouldn't of been possible and we would of had to have someone else in the static for a certain turn. No body is going to want you to switch to a job with ilvl 180-190 gear for alex, because they need that job instead. Lots of people are barely able to get past faust. You think they are going to want you on a job that is on ilvl180-190 once they have a lot of the 200-210 gear? Nope. This is just a example, its only going to get worse with later floors. ESP if its discovered you really only need one tank, or one heal for some of the content, like we've experienced in coil. Also there's flexibility within your job catagory to consider as well. There most certainly are going to be instances where pld is better then war, or drk over pld. Sense gear is completely unique, you can't just simply switch to the other to make it easier on your group now. It just isn't going to happen if your in law gear. With the current system, your just going to have to manage with what you got. No one can switch to make it easier for the group. Now if somehow the content is created in a way that there wont be better strategies for different jobs on each floor, then I'll gladly agree that "no one needs" access to better gear for a second job.
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  9. #49
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    Eisen-Zorn's Avatar
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    Daeya Star
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 84
    I guess you're just not going to be able to max out your gear in 2 weeks. So sad.
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  10. #50
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    Adreius Niluez
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    You... really... idk...

    We already had a tome increase from 300/week to 450/week... Any more than that and the gearing curve on new content gets skewed. Just because you want something doesn't mean it should happen.
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