Serious feedback on Astrologian after clearing A1 Savage.

[Giantbane]

I don't post on these forums. They are a general cesspool of rage and childish bickering. I looked under the Support and Information in the game, and it asked me to relay my FFXIV-related feedback here. That is what I am doing. I have no desire to participate in this discussion, so do with this thread as you will.

Translation:
When anyone else here provides feedback or discusses it, they're being temperamental children. But I'm going to grace you trolls with my feedback before I peace out.



what a dbag

[AlexionSkylark]

Please, SE, let poor Astrologians feel like they have some CONTROL over their fate, not that they need to constantly struggle with the "hand that has been dealt to them".

Not to be the Devil's Advocate, but... I thought that this statement was the CORE CONCEPT of the class?

[Luvbunny]

I think this speaks more that SCH is currently a bit overpowered in endgame meta, considering that they're largely indispensable to groups ATM. Their weaker AOE healing used to be their one drawback, but SE covered for that this expansion in SPADES. Though I'm sure this will be a super unpopular opinion on these forums, I think that SCH really needs a nerf, not that the other healers need that big of a buff.

I am sorry but speak for yourself lol, Scholar DOES NOT need nerf. The few addition of abilities are sorely needed, now they can heal good instead of lacking. And white mage got another way to recover their mp. SE did amazing with Scholar and White Mage, giving each jobs abilities that cover their weakness at level 50. What they really need to do is to significantly buff Astro healing potency. The buffs from Astro is just icing on the cake, just like Scholar's Selene and their DPS ability. Astro NEED to be able to heal just as good as Scholar and use shield comparable to what Scholar has. This job also need to be able to stack ALL of their abilities with Scholar and White Mage, and all their buffs should complement what Scholar + Bard + Machinist. I think SE was just playing it safe, so they can tweak this job accordingly without making it OP right out of the gate.

[Bernelli]

Translation:
When anyone else here provides feedback or discusses it, they're being temperamental children. But I'm going to grace you trolls with my feedback before I peace out.



what a dbag

Look in a mirror.

[Nix]

Translation:
When anyone else here provides feedback or discusses it, they're being temperamental children. But I'm going to grace you trolls with my feedback before I peace out.



what a dbag

OP is not wrong, but your translation is kinda off. And honestly, you just went ahead and proved him right.

All he's doing here is leaving feedback, because the staff have asked that players submit it in order to help better balance classes. He has no wish to become a part of the forum community because, let's face it, these forums really are awful. I've lost count of the amount of threads that were full of level-headed discussion only to get derailed by some twat with a kneejerk post.
There's discussion, and then there's being an absolute spoogebucket. Sadly, we're getting more of the latter because people seem to forget that discussion/criticism doesn't necessarily have to = being a complete asshole.

Have a wonderful day guys~!

[Raiya]

Nice post. I agree with you on most of what your saying the job is good but it has some very pronounced flaws too like the lack of a healing boost and the heals being underwhelming at times. Job needs more refining to make it fit in with the other healers and at the same time stand out with its own unique playstyle. Also good god the cards need to be enhanced not least their effect time is woefully short expecially when rng is involved to get the right config.

[Brundlefly]

Get........

[RyuDragnier]

Translation:
When anyone else here provides feedback or discusses it, they're being temperamental children. But I'm going to grace you trolls with my feedback before I peace out.



what a dbag

You proved his point...and here's your mirror. Look in it.

[loreleidiangelo]

Not to be the Devil's Advocate, but... I thought that this statement was the CORE CONCEPT of the class?

The quest to obtain Spread highlights that while no card reading is ever "wrong", sometimes you need to give them a little nudge. The quest to obtain Shuffle says virtually the same thing.

I don't want a healing potency band-aid, I want AST buffs to actually be IMPACTFUL. SE can either up their effects to make up for the ludicrous rng, or they can give us more tools to manage our deck. I'd PREFER the latter, but honestly I'll take either at this point.

[Giantbane]

Look in a mirror.

OP is not wrong, but your translation is kinda off. And honestly, you just went ahead and proved him right.

You proved his point...and here's your mirror. Look in it.

It's not that he has bad complaints. I haven't played astro, but they seem like all good observations and relevant comparisons to SCH/WHM.

But see, he could have just started the post with:

"I don't post here a lot, I was told to post here by SE staff if I wanted to give feedback. Here are my concerns ...[lists off concerns]"

But he didn't do that, he just had to throw in that extra bit about all the posters on the forum sucking and not worth his time to even reply to. Hence, my reply.