Serious feedback on Astrologian after clearing A1 Savage.

[NolLacnala]

We knew this was coming when they said they didn't balance encounters around healers dealing damage

AST cards need to have the impact of both the damage other healers can deal combined with the healing/mitigation they've lost compared to the other two

[Warlyx]

funny thing is that once Savage is on farm , ppl will use AST more , since raw healing wont be needed , SCH AST for more dmg and faster kills...good thing healers share gear (but weapon)

will happen to brd/mch , that are awesome to have on progression and once u dont need the MP/TP regen u can change it for a "real" dps job. (too bad brd/mch only share right side with nin )

[loreleidiangelo]

funny thing is that once Savage is on farm , ppl will use AST more , since raw healing wont be needed , SCH AST for more dmg and faster kills...good thing healers share gear (but weapon)

will happen to brd/mch , that are awesome to have on progression and once u dont need the MP/TP regen u can change it for a "real" dps job. (too bad brd/mch only share right side with nin )

Even with Echo, up until Heavensward I saw Final Coil PFs that either allowed all compositions, or actually had a spot SPECIFICALLY left for BRD. I think they're fine. And AST will be "fine", too...for farming, when people relatively outgear the content and don't need super powerful healing or hefty healer DPS contributions. But the game shouldn't be balanced around "farm" content; ASTs should be usable in Savage from the get-go, and they're really not.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

Probably. If astrologians are as good as white mages OR scholars in addition to the extra utility provided by cards, there would be almost zero reason to take either of the other two.

Even if AST had their healing and shielding potency buffed to be on par with SCH/WHM:

1. The cards are random. We won't always get the ideal buffed card during a fight. I'd maybe understand this logic of it becoming OP if we were able to choose the cards (but! then again, see point 2), but alas, we can't. No one would say not to a WHM or SCH and be like "AST only" just to rely on the RNG factor.

2. The cards are not game breaking. They are just not powerful enough to notice a big difference. AST can't overshadow WHM nor SCH through their cards. So again, no one would reject a WHM or a SCH for a run just because they are not ASTs.

Buffing their heal/shield potencies would not make WHM or SCH obsolete, at all. Don't really understand why some people think that. Play the job all the way to and at 60 first so you see this for yourself.

[Yoshiyuki]

I've updated the OP with our A2 clear. I'm surprised that so many people have replied (in a good way). A3 is a big roadblock for everyone right now. Whenever my group clears it, I will update once again.

[Issac]

Bump, here's to hoping a rep picks this up.

[Miiu]

Bump, here's to hoping a rep picks this up.

There was already a response inside this thread(healer forum): http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...stro-in-savage (page 9)

Greetings,

Thanks for the feedback!

We'd like to share the dev. team's thoughts and approach in regards to the current balance of astrologians.

• Astrologian's healing potency and cards effects

  Astrologian's healing potency and card effects were set with a party's total offensive and defensive capabilities in mind, as they can increase various effects of other party members using their cards.
  
  The development team is observing player progression in raids and dungeons to ensure the game balance is set up appropriately for each piece of content. If they feel it needs further adjustments, they'll consider making adjustments based on player data and feedback.
  

• Future feedback

  The development team is constantly observing in-game data, but they're also using the feedback received on the forums when making future adjustments. Comments regarding how astrologians feel when healing throughout the various areas of content is very useful, so please continue to send us specific requests on each action's effect when battling through the different instances.

[Altijacek]

OP I mainly agree with you, but just so you know, I hope the responses in here changed your attitude towards the forum if only a bit. Sure it can be silly, but sometimes you'll get serious and thought out responses. Therefore, I encourage you to continue posting thoughts. Nothing bad can come of it except maybe silly trolling, but a lot of good can come out of it.

[Psychosamm]

I have an idea that I believe would help AST tremendously in their healing potency department.

Currently their healing potency is toned down due to their "utility", or at least I assume that's the reason why they are weaker in that aspect. I think SE should implement a sort of buff along every time you RR a card. You are essentially throwing away your utility at that point, sure you may be simply setting up for a card combo, but at that time you are not getting anything out of your card. I think if every time you RR a card you got a 10 second or so healing buff, similar to Divine Seal, that would help AST tremendously, and add a good deal of reliability to the class, as you could simply wait to draw, then RR whatever card you get in anticipation of a heal heavy portion of the fight. You could also use it to simply enhance your aspected helios.

The benefits of the cards/AST dps is another issue entirely that needs to be addressed, but I believe making AST a viable HEALER is the top priority.

[TinyMonster]

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I really like this idea! I decided to keep playing the AST since I really enjoy this class.