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    Lelila38's Avatar
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    Rhia Nara
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    Most people aren't that bad. If you try and ask them nicely at the start of the dungeon, explaining you're new and you'd like to watch the cutscenes, most groups will wait for you. Unless they're all complete jerks.
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    Colette Pascal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelila38 View Post
    Most people aren't that bad. If you try and ask them nicely at the start of the dungeon, explaining you're new and you'd like to watch the cutscenes, most groups will wait for you. Unless they're all complete jerks.
    I have yet to hear of someone being lucky enough to have a large enough majority of nice people to actually force the rest of the group to wait. Every report I have heard is you are getting thrown to the wolves. There may be a couple nice people but the content is so easy to clear that the impatient people don't need them either. It sucks. You can either not participate in fights and just watch all the cut scenes from your starting position as everything dies without you, or you can skip the cut scenes and watch at the inn. It sucks, but SE learned their lesson and designed later dungeons differently so this is the only time you will have this problem.

    The only way you will get to watch cut scenes is if you find some nice people to go in with you. If you have a FC, try asking them. If you aren't in an FC, this may be a good time to find one. With the new undersized party rules, 3-5 level 60 people could go in with you and clear, so you don't have to get 7 more people like you used to.
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    Drake Dragonscale
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    The level 60 dungeon (or was it the trial?) has a not-so-short cutscene in the middle of the fight.
    I wish SE hadn't done it that way. I was fortunate to have a second player doing it for the first time as well so it wasn't a big deal to watch it. The content still being new to many helps but I wish they would tell the story differently.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExiledOne View Post
    The level 60 dungeon (or was it the trial?) has a not-so-short cutscene in the middle of the fight.
    I wish SE hadn't done it that way. I was fortunate to have a second player doing it for the first time as well so it wasn't a big deal to watch it. The content still being new to many helps but I wish they would tell the story differently.
    For the most part, they have made it so cutscenes happen after you leave the instance. But, I guess they couldn't do all the narrative they wanted for that one. Still far, far less than the old 8 man story dungeons.
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    When there are at least 2 new people in it, I always make an effort to convince the party to make it a "story run", as in, waiting for the new people to finish watching the cutscenes before rushing off to the next fight.
    Some people turn on cutscene viewing too and rewatch it and are usually pretty happy to relive the experience they first had when it all started.
    But I also had people leave over it, because they couldn't be bothered to spend more than 10 minutes in the dungeon..=_=°
    Just try and ask nicely and hope you get people who aren't complete jerks.

    The only real solution to this problem is to catch up with the bulk of the players. When close to everyone is new to the content, nearly everyone is watching the cutscenes so no one can rush off and start fighting on their own :x
    But that's a long term goal so don't stress over it and just go at your own pace and ask people to wait for you. There ARE a lot of nice players, they often just go along with the rushers unless asked otherwise.
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Just move on. It's not a problem past those 2 dungeons.
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    Kimjong Un
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    Yeah I was very frustrated when it came to those final 2 8man dungeons. I didn't experience any of the encounters as I literally entered the dungeon and watched cut scenes until it was over (in Praetorium anyway). By the time I got through the cut scenes, Ultima was dead and there was one other guy left with me who also didn't even enter combat, lol.

    I wasn't cursing out the players however, I was pissed off that SE thought it was a good idea to put 30 minutes of cut scenes into an 8 player dungeon!! I mean really!?!!? Everything was great up to that point; I was extremely disappointed by the way it was handled.

    Basically if you are a new player to this game, you will NOT be able to enjoy the end of MSQ 2.0 content as it was intended to be enjoyed without forming your own party of people on the same page as you. Good luck with that!
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    Sylvayn Eauvent
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I also prefer watching cutscenes "live". However, at first, since I didn't want to come out as rude for making people wait for me either, I skipped them and was sorry about that, especially when we usually happened to wait anyway for a few other people watching the cuntscenes themselves. So now I go the middle ground: when entering a new dungeon I press "enter" and ask in party chat if there are any other people watching the cutscene and/or whether they wouldn't mind me watching it. I've met a few crazy tanks rushing anyway but so far this strategy is working and the little somewhat immersion-breaking chat box is a small price to pay for my peace of mind.
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    Lucke Arrayo
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    Hyperion
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    As I tank these dungeons, I'll offer to stay behind while the people watch the CSes. Nowadays, people are so overgeared, you don't need two tanks for those last couple dungeons. I don't even think you need tanks any more lol. Anyways, after the dungeon, I always get a few comms, prolly from the people I stayed behind with.

    I do think SE should lock the bosses until everyone is out of their CS. Make the game force the CS to continue after 30 seconds so trolls don't hold the party hostage.
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    Genevieve Mhakaracca
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    This is certainly a problem that was addressed with Heavensward. I only got to experience the final two dungeons in 2.0 when we were busy with T9 and decided to rerun things for fun. I hardly fought in them my first time through.

    Fortunately, my friend tanks and I used to heal (maining MCH now, but leveling AST), so either way, the party can't go forward without one of us. The cutscenes are there for a reason and, as someone else said, you completely lose the effect if you just wait to watch them at the inn. It's only a few minutes, and we should all be patient for others.
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