Rage quiter tread, them ruin the pf utility ? even the game ?

[kensatsu]

What do you think about rage quiter ?
It's right it's better to run with FC, you usualy pf something when you can't run with your fc.
I can understand on a farm party, any player will say 3 try it's far from a farm party so i quit.
Or one for down PT : for exemple in ravana ex: we can't pass the adds or the stoneskin we lack dps after some try i can tell we lack dps so i quit.

I take the same exemple ravana ex, we have some fail on the last phase ? after 3 try i quit...
Well i don't understand in this case. Ravana ex don't seem very hard, but i don't think it's free to down the first time without effort.
We always deal with them, but a lot more than usual i think, it remember me when we was doing titan EX in 2.1, full of crazy rage quiter.

[Vladislav]

1st example is about pt stuck at some phase and no progress = 1 if pt failed once and you quit it be dumb ragequit . 2 if nothing changed in 3 even 4 attempt it may no change at all so it legit ragequit .
2nd one is stuck on last phase but with visible chance of win/clear = 1 if it's clear party then workout till time out or win (if quit during that it will be dumb ragequit) , 2 if it farm party then yes it total legit ragequit because it's not farm if in 30 mins u still can't win .

[FridgePanic]

The worst is when you finally get a group capable of clearing the fight and someone leaves.

[Twilite]

My eyes bled hard trying to read the first two posts..

But rage quitters annoy me when they do it after 1 wipe.

[Chihaya]

Well, Bismarck EX and Ravana EX have phases that are DPS checks. If you don't have the DPS or too many DPS are getting floored, it is kind of pointless. I lost count how many times I seen Ravana/Bismarck enrage just because DPS is too low/DPS died.
Though quitting after 1 try is kind of lame.

Helped a friend clear Alexander Floor 4 yesterday, DF with 4 in the group with only 1 new person and when we cleared it, there were 3 other people on their first clears.
Good thing Alexander 4 doesn't really have much of a DPS check because the DF brd was doing way less than half of the damage of any other DPS and it was extremely painful when I got paired up with brd for quarantine. Never seen so many discolds (5+?) - plus the brd running into healer during judgement nisi...
DPS's were so tunnel visioned, it was lucky for us that it was the tanks taking double lasers to the face and taking on way more orbs than my usual runs - I pop a CD and eat all 3 from 1 direction and go intercept from another direction...

[Valkyrie-Amber]

well its common to see someone quit after 1 wipe especially if you set up a farm pf and someone has no idea what they are doing. blacklist and leave is best option in those cases. like a dps who does not learn proper optimal dps rotations and passers too low in a farm party needs to be reported to the gms as well for trolling.

[kensatsu]

XD, i saw worst today, someone pfing Alex Savage 1 just when it got release with this new patch, nobody know it's new content so i try, we had not enough dps for kill faust the trash boss, so i think everyone should have a already nice stuff to try this, it's my case (ilvel186), but certainly not the case of everyone, i see also a video today, OT have to dps it and keep the adds in the same time, when them kill it in the video the two tank was die so it's very close. idk what ilevel would be recommend, but it need fat dps .
Well it's the first day so we can understand this, but not here is the worst :

After i saw the same pf from the same guys, i try to enter, and tadam i was blacklisted XD.
I think he blacklisted all the group asap.
First time i see that, totaly crazy XD

[ZodiacSoldier]

I agree that rage quitters sucks but there are instances where its understandable. Like what you mentioned:

1. When you join a "farm party" but your group keep wiping and worst if there is a law bonus for a farm party.... like wtf.

2. When your party does not have enough DPS to pass a DPS check. If your party executes everything perfectly, but still die to enrage, then you know that they are under geared and/or dont know how to play their class correctly (ie someone is a healer/tank main but needed to be DPS to join a farm group) even if they know fights.