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Thread: Esoteric cap

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    The 450 cap on the limited tome has been in the game quite some time now use to be 300 when 2.0 first came out I don't know why so many people complaining about it now.
    two reasons
    1) more of the same is boring, an expansion is suppose to come with more innovation (i personally, don't care about this)
    2) it's been well over a year since the tomestone gear is 100% job specific. not so bad when it was one Fending/Noct set for WAR and PLD, now it's 3 tank classes and 1 set of gear for each.
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    Everyone complaining about using tomestones to gear classes...and in other threads people are complaining about crafters not being useful when they can make comparable gear that requires some melding of materia.

    If SE removed all the caps...majority of the people with these complaints would finish getting gear in a couple weeks and then complain there is nothing more to do and unsub til the next patch just like we saw in great amounts between 2.55 and 3.0.

    SE makes money off of subscriptions. Content takes longer to develop than it does to be played so the only way to get people to stay subscribed between updates is to slow down how fast that content can be completed.

    There is nothing forcing you to gear every one of your classes in top gear 1 week after patch. There is also nothing forcing you to keep playing MMOs that revolve around this style of play.
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    Just wait till the next set comes up. They'll make it easier for this stage and harder for the next one. Same as last time. Same as every time. Forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Just wait till the next set comes up. They'll make it easier for this stage and harder for the next one. Same as last time. Same as every time. Forever.
    That's the point, why do we have to wait months to be able to play with more diversity after our main already has esoteric set lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit-Kat View Post
    this is kinda frustrating for people who like hoping from class to class doing content (personal reference here on healers).
    Personal reference here: I did both tanks in 2.0, continuing into 3.0 as well.

    Solution: Get the Esoteric trinkets and belt and the Alexander Normal Armor. Pick whichever weapon you want from either Alexander Savage or Esoterics. Esoteric trinkets and the belts are sharable between all their roles, not class/job restricted. The Alexander Normal and Savage armors are sharable between all their roles too, not class/job restricted. That's my plan anyways. In this way, only the weapons are the class/job restricted, just like always.
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  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Kit-Kat View Post
    That's the point, why do we have to wait months to be able to play with more diversity after our main already has esoteric set lol.
    you don't need Esoteric gear to play with more diversity. you can clear all content except Savage without any Esoteric pieces.
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    As I said in another thread, make it so esoterics are linked to the class you're playing. You can only get 450 tomes per class and if you remember pre 3.0 when we had a 900 poetic cap it could be tedious to get them all in one week. The only manageable way for me to get them all was to farm final coil everything else was terrible. My point is even 450 with the current rewards takes a little bit of time to acquire. If someone is willing to get involved into two different jobs then let him be. It's gonna take some time and it won't have a concrete advantage on the others who only farmed for one class apart from being able to play another class. We could grind out another character but SE should really make it so we can have two main job on the same character since they designed it this way...

    I'm torn beetween two different classes and I have to make a choice knowing at some point one of the two will not have the ilvl requirement to enter in pick up groups, that's so lame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Just wait till the next set comes up. They'll make it easier for this stage and harder for the next one. Same as last time. Same as every time. Forever.

    If people don't see the long-term problems with gearing the same way, every time, as you said forever.....only so long people will put up with the same old song and dance.

    Also....there was a someone who made the suggestion to keep the 450 tomes per week cap, but to lock it by job, not character. 450 cap/week for WAR, 450 cap/week for PLD, etc. Keeps the grind, keeps the lockout on all things.....but allows everyone(who doesn't have multiple jobs at/near cap? Seriously.) to gear all their jobs. It actually makes it so people need to play more since they will be farming tomes for multiple jobs at once.

    Best solution, imo.

    EDIT: I'm not sure who came up with the idea that I posted, but credit goes to them, not me.
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    Last edited by Ayanno; 07-23-2015 at 05:02 AM.

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    Hmm:

    THM: 0/450
    CNJ: 0/450
    ACN: 0/450
    GLA: 0/450
    PGL: 0/450
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    total cap: 0/900 (so people still can't get gear for every class in just 1 week)

    This allow the players to gear up 2 classes at the same time
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    Last edited by Felis; 07-23-2015 at 05:11 AM.

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    No, that is the reason you have one character. I think we should be getting double the tokens we are now BECAUSE of alts.
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