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    Yeah, not much point in keeping the cap beyond the first class.
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    The way they're setting it up 3.1 will be out at the time you fully max out, and will raise the cap.
    It is a shame for alt-aholics and kind of annoying choosing between my DRK and WAR, but oh well.
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    Might be old content but you know 3.1 is probably a couple of months away and then its time for lower ilvl gear from easy 24-man so it will probably be good for another 3-4 months after that so until 3.2. Please look forward to it.
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    I really hate this "we don't want hardcore players to get gears too fast and casual players feel they were left behind".

    nobody cares about being left behind. when a new patch comes out, the old gears will be inferior to the new ones anyway so why do we need to wait for casual players when they themselves don't give a damn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I really hate this "we don't want hardcore players to get gears too fast and casual players feel they were left behind".

    nobody cares about being left behind. when a new patch comes out, the old gears will be inferior to the new ones anyway so why do we need to wait for casual players when they themselves don't give a damn?
    It's more like "we don't want the hardcores to gear up everything in a week and then complain about not having any content, and then unsub until the next patch."

    This is about the money. By forcing people to slowly upgrade gear instead of binging it being done in three days, they are forcing you to keep your sub up for more than just the month of the patch.
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    Personally I'm more interested in the appearances of the gear than the stats. Kind of lame to think it'll take 20+ weeks just to get two sets of gear, much less all of the others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    It's more like "we don't want the hardcores to gear up everything in a week and then complain about not having any content, and then unsub until the next patch."

    This is about the money. By forcing people to slowly upgrade gear instead of binging it being done in three days, they are forcing you to keep your sub up for more than just the month of the patch.
    That's why it's acknowledged that the weekly cap is fine at first, but there's no reason to still have the cap 10 weeks from now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    It's more like "we don't want the hardcores to gear up everything in a week and then complain about not having any content, and then unsub until the next patch."

    This is about the money. By forcing people to slowly upgrade gear instead of binging it being done in three days, they are forcing you to keep your sub up for more than just the month of the patch.
    Designing the game around these people who aren't even fans is a mistake.

    Anyways 1000% agree with OP. It takes 3 months to gear up with eso for one job. I love job specific gear and would love to see more of it, but with the cap this makes it almost im possible to play more than one job - which is one of the huge points of the armory system in the first place. At the very least do a per job cap, or be more aggressive about increasing/eliminating the cap.

    MMOs have always been about the grind - players who play more should be able to progress further than other players. Artificially limiting this just feels skeezy. Hell they could triple the cost of every piece and award 1/3rd of the tomes and I'd like it better than a capped system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    No, the instant gratification generation should be fought at every turn.

    If they increased the cap or made it per job, those people would cancel their sub that much faster. Instead of subbing for 3 months and then playing 3.1, they would play for 1 or 2 and then cancel sub until 3.1. SE is still a business, after all. The cap is designed so that you will complete your Eso gear aroud the time 3.1 is out. There is nothng wrong with that.
    Your post is mathematically ridiculous. If they made it per job it would take the same amount of time to gear 2 jobs as 1 job - you'd still be working on it until 3.1 released.
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    Last edited by ckc22; 07-23-2015 at 03:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I really hate this "we don't want hardcore players to get gears too fast and casual players feel they were left behind".

    nobody cares about being left behind. when a new patch comes out, the old gears will be inferior to the new ones anyway so why do we need to wait for casual players when they themselves don't give a damn?
    i210 is going to be the top gear until 3.2.

    3.1 is going to be a "catch up" patch instead of an ilevel increase with the new 24 man giving out either new i190 or i200 left side pieces.

    Also SE has Identified 3 main player groups: Casuals, Midcore and Hardcore. They probably expect each group to end 3.0 with the following ilevels for their main classes:

    Hardcore: ~i210
    Midcore: ~i200
    Casual: i180 to i190

    3.1 will have them end at the following ilevels:
    Hardcore: i210
    Midcore: i210
    Casuals: i190 to i200
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    i210 is going to be the top gear until 3.2.

    3.1 is going to be a "catch up" patch instead of an ilevel increase with the new 24 man giving out either new i190 or i200 left side pieces.

    Also SE has Identified 3 main player groups: Casuals, Midcore and Hardcore. They probably expect each group to end 3.0 with the following ilevels for their main classes:

    Hardcore: ~i210
    Midcore: ~i200
    Casual: i180 to i190

    3.1 will have them end at the following ilevels:
    Hardcore: i210
    Midcore: i210
    Casuals: i190 to i200
    there is no more "Midcore" with alexander story mode being a joke and savage being built to punish people who cant drill it midcore has been dissolved into the other groups
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikaIto View Post
    there is no more "Midcore" with alexander story mode being a joke and savage being built to punish people who cant drill it midcore has been dissolved into the other groups
    No, Midcore is the pretty much the part of the player base clearing Alexander story minus the Hardcore 10%.

    Alexander Savage is also only punishing those who are unskilled and going in undergeared. Savage is tuned for i190 to i200 and i186 is the best you can be this week so undergeared is pretty much everyone.
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