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    SovereignAegis's Avatar
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    Cole Evyx
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    Scholar Lv 90

    Patch 3.05 came and no MCH utility buffs.

    Because apparently two separate skills (Rend mind and dismantle) on the same 90s cooldown timer with a 10s duration that only reduces EITHER magic or physical damage dealt by a SINGLE target by 5% is okay.


    It isn't okay, the effect is EXTREMELY too low for the cooldown and duration.

    I don't expect any more DPS improvements for the MCH but for a class apparently based on utility and debuffing we sure as hell don't bring it. Like at all. No, 5% is not bringing it. No there is not a situation that would warrant that 5% making a difference. No, really, 5% is heinously low.


    "Muh utility". 5% trivial debuff that no one on the planet cares about.

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    Sekundes Dullahan
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    Moogle
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    Oh, a thread not complaining about Wanderer's Minuet on your lvl 32 Bard. That's a change.

    BTW, BRD and MCH got buffs on 3.01. Wait for after Alexander Savage to see some buffs. You know, when people give feedback on raid content.
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    MCH has simply way too many (6) shared abilities, most of which are too situational to that you'll rarely need to use them in a real fight. To put things in perspective, A traited Virus reduces str, dex,mind and int by 15% and has the same cooldown with 90s
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    Last edited by myahele; 07-21-2015 at 09:11 PM.

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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    "Muh utility". 5% trivial debuff that no one on the planet cares about.
    5% magic dmg reduce + MNK DRK/DRK delibrum+ Sacred Soil + stoneskin....how much more do you want ?

    before we only get the mark red, and now we got 5% more on top of all that
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    Last edited by Shneibel; 07-21-2015 at 09:33 PM.

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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    They already said beforehand that they are adjusting jobs based on feedback in Alexander(Savage). Whatever was adjusted in 3.05 were changes they felt were immediate. Not to mention, MCH got a real nice boost in damage just two weeks ago.
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    Player IfritReborn's Avatar
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    Kevvy Alexandros
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    I love Anna Kendrick, she's so beautiful and talented!
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    5% magic dmg reduce + MNK DRK/DRK delibrum+ Sacred Soil + stoneskin....how much more do you want ?

    before we only get the mark red, and now we got 5% more on top of all that
    I want a class based upon debuffing, that gave up a ton of DPS compared to Ninja and dragoon, to actually debuff.
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    Saerin Zei
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    I want a class based upon debuffing, that gave up a ton of DPS compared to Ninja and dragoon, to actually debuff.
    It does. Just because you like to complain about the amount does not exempt from the fact that it does debuff, plus it stacks (Thus, is fine).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asierid View Post
    It does. Just because you like to complain about the amount does not exempt from the fact that it does debuff, plus it stacks (Thus, is fine).
    It. Is. Not. Fine.

    Just because you say it is doesn't make it so. When dark knights get a single ability that decreases all damage a target puts out by DOUBLE what a MCH does we are suddenly on the page of mch utility NOT being fine.
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    Theirs doesn't stack. Yours does. You have a choice in the matter, they do not. What more do you want?

    Add some mouth foam next time. Add some emphasis to it at least.
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