Can we get rid of the daily post limit?

[Xystic]

It's generally used to prevent this sort of stuff which has been occurring lately.

need to post so... l o l

[BreathlessTao]

YES, YES, YES, TWENTY THOUSAND TIMES YES!!!!!!

As for the character limit - it's annoying, it's nothing but an unnecessary obstacle to overcome, and the fact that bypassing it is so extremely easy just makes it even more that. Nothing but a punishment for every single person who would actually want to go on discussing thing, helping out others, etc. It actually helps flood, when the new people don't know about the workaround and make 3-6 posts describing whatever their issue is, instead of posting it in one. I'm also very much fed up with the fact that 9 out of 10 times I want to post something on here, I either have to first type it in Notepad, post one sentence of it, only to have to edit and insert the rest and save the post - or I just type it in, click Post, only to be taken to the advanced editing page saying I'm 40-100-400 char above the absolutely pointless limit. Like, for sanity's sake, this is a forum, it's meant for discussions, it's not bloody Twitter!! Just maddening.

As for the daily post limit... well, yeah, there have been occasions when I actually hit it and of course I realised that when I wanted to post an explanation or some such in a thread, effectively trying to help out others. WHY????

...and for the record ^ I can't post this simply either, because it's 247 character over the limit. JUST REMOVE THE BLOODY LIMITS ALREADY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[Velisra]

Comparing these forums to the WoW forums, I can't agree with removing the 20 post limit. In the WoW GD forums, the useless threads completely outnumber the worthwhile, and it's sad. People post to troll, to be "first" posting in a thread, to "post in a epic thread" and forum threads often devolve into name calling and/or borderline ERP... it's just ridiculous. I think the daily post limit probably cuts down on the trash posts here, since folks need to think a bit and not waste their posting allowance.

Just my two cents. :-)

[Etiken]

So make it a limit of 20 per day per thread!
I easily answer 10+ threads in a day, each about a different topic, so it's NOT about making a point and arguing.
And I CAN'T! I get cut off. There are ZERO upsides to a daily limit, and a bunch of downsides = it's stupid.

You have only ever hit your daily post limit ONCE.

I agree with the text limit being changed since it is easily avoidable, but I don't see what you are complaining about with the daily post limit. You are just raging to rage about that part of the debate lol.

...oh and for my opinion on the matter, no I don't think the post limit needs to be raised. Velisra above is totally right.
Take away the post limit and you will start to see hundreds of worthless one word answers to questions instead of people taking a bit of time to get their entire thought out in one post.

[Samcaesar]

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We have no idea if people would flood the board if the post limit is removed, what we do know is people are tired of having to pick and choose of what threads to actually participate in due to it. It's not the posters job to moderate, it's the moderators job to moderate (Hence you know.. their title), while I feel posters should try to stick to quality posts, a post limit or character limit doesn't stop people from making "a giant mess", people who want to do that kinda crap will do it anyways.

I'm sure it does, but daily post limits also prevent conversation, I find it very hard to believe it makes moderation easier (It might limit the amounts of "bad posts" but never really stop them), but that doesn't matter it's their jobs to moderate, and sure they do, they also reduce the amount of actual posts, good or bad.
The post limit isn't some god sent gift, it really does ultimately limit the posts, good or "bad". There's ways to prevent spam (That doesn't amount to 20 posts per day), notice no one's complaining about the 5 minute time difference (I believe it's 5 minutes) in between posts, because that's actually a reasonable way to limit spam.

I can contradict it, I didn't have the time nor ability to due to being on the mobile version of the forums (Also something that really needs to be worked on, unless you want to defend that too), and due to this reply being over the 1000 character limit, wouldn't be possible. If you want to make assumptions and ignore the facts that the post limit is harmful to the idea of a forum, i.e. conversation.
Forums are going to get bad, even on this one, it's the inherent issue with any facility that's about people talking. Sh*tposters are gonna sh*tpost, it's how the internet works, try to find a forum that's 100% quality content strictly due to a post limit, and then I'll concede that there's benefits to it (Hint: This is not one of those forums). It will always limit the amount of actual good posts and conversation can make, which is a fault you're not accepting exists.

I'm so done with people jumping to SE's defense whenever you've yet to post something with a 100% conclusion. Stop acting like the post limit is a flawless thing and maybe your argument wouldn't seem like such a straw man. By the way "debatable" means it's arguable that it might be useful, it also might be arguably bad (What I assume the OP is going with) therefore still useless, so they didn't contradict themselves. And you're the one talking about others not caring about anything else and how you're not using a strawman argument.

That's SE's fault for not listening to feedback, they've yet to give a solid reason on why they want to keep the daily limit (Or god forbid remove it for a week or so to test what happens) so they're in the wrong there. Don't get mad at the OP for wanting to post in a forum people actually look at, it's not the right one, but at least a majority of people actually look at the general discussion board.

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Having also came from the WoW forums, all the way back to whenever there were off topic forums, and I disagree. The daily limit just limits the amount of posts someone's going to do. People who are wanting to screw about are still going to do it, sure they do it less, but they still do it. The basis is, post limit prevents people from having more conversation, ie the point of a forum. If moderators do their job and delete obvious troll and "borderline ERP" posts, then this isn't an issue, they already look out for "name calling" posts and delete them when they get out of control (And good on them). I mean who really cares about "first lol" and "posting in epic thread" responses? It's 5 seconds of your life you spent reading them, it's no different than the "yes /10char" posts that are already on the forums.

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I've hit the daily post limit several times, it's annoying wanting to participate in both the Lore and General forums and "Sorry no more additional posts may be made" comes up. Heck, I haven't hit it recently because I've wanted to hopefully avoid getting in the middle of another discussion only to be interrupted by the limit, maybe the OP is the same.

People are already going to make useless posts, keep in mine "yes /10char" is used kinda frequently here. Sure you limit the total amount of those, but they'll still happen no matter what you do. Why should people who want to actually use forums be hampered and restricted from doing so because of a possibility, especially whenever we can help moderate ourselves by ignoring troll posts or reporting them.

[Etiken]

People who are wanting to screw about are still going to do it, sure they do it less, but they still do it.

You said it yourself. "They do it less". That is the :exact: point.
I read your entire argument and I agree with mostly all of it, however... the fact is the post limit does assist in troll prevention.

To be honest, I really don't care what they do. I just enjoy being on the forum and taking part in a few conversations like this one. Taking part in a few discussions and trying to play devils advocate, I sometimes hope that it will spark new conversations and help people understand the other side of the story. Even if that other side isn't something I even agree with, I still try to bring up all the points that I could see being valid.

So whatever makes you guys happy I'll +1 and hope for the best! =P