Create-A-Race Thread

[Zyrusticae]

Well, let's be real here. The only possible way they could make everyone happy is making character creation not suck so much in the first place. As long as character creation stays the way it is, some demographic or other is going to be left out every single time they add a new race. To actually please most people, the height slider range would need to be huge, they would need a muscle slider and a general build/weight slider (something we badly need for all characters), more than a mere four/five face options per race, and the ability to change every single body feature on at least some level (especially fur and scales if they are present).

And such a revamp happening is about as likely as the game getting A Realm Reborn Reborn or something similarly outrageous. So, in the end, we'll likely forever be at odds with what the Japanese demographic wants from new playable races.

The most I could see would be them making a race where the two subraces are completely different, even moreso than the Highlander vs Midlander split, and that would effectively be the same thing as creating TWO races at the same time. Something like this (note: small loincloth warning), for example. And, quite frankly, we're more likely to see a gender split in that fashion like the Au Ra than we are to see two subraces executed like that.

That being said, I'd sure love to see them try! Would certainly put a lot of my complaints to bed. I get the feeling, however, that even if they did such a thing, the race we'd get is extremely likely to be another 'human-with-add-ons' type of thing, and thus disappointment reigns once again...

- Give their emotes a good mix between cute or tough (Like a very expressive and childish /huh compared to a quicker more relaxed /huh) or alternative introduce emote sets that'd change these.

Regarding this, I'd rather just have them let us pick from all the emotes without regard for race- or gender-locking. It's extremely constricting to only be able to use emotes of your particular race & gender, and often clashes with a given character's personality (not to mention stereotyping an entire race). Pretty much all the Miqo'te female emotes are waaay too girly-looking for my character, for example.

[Nestama]

I think it depends on what SE decide to go with. If they stick to making mish-mash of what's popular, then FFXIV is only going to have the usual human thing with dingledangs glued on (Viera or hybrid races). However, if they decide to try and make something that isn't a mish-mash of what's popular, then there's a chance we may get something that actually adds variety to the game, especially if it's not 90% cute.


(SE could alter the i100-110 BLM PvP feet for races like this)

By the way, how exactly are the Au Ra putting their helmets or hoods on? It doesn't seem like they can easily put them on.

[Samcaesar]

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Like, it definitely could be improved, but it's not completely awful currently, heck even some minor changes would improve the system a whole lot imho. For example, I was thinking the height issues with races, make the bottom 1-50 the shorter height range (Lining up with the current heights of the girls of each race), while the 51-100 would function with the taller height range (Lining up with the current heights of the guys of each race).

Honestly? I think the whole "One clan for western audience one clan for eastern audience" works much better (Outside of say, just making it so there's way more overall body shape customization in the CC), as long as they can be associated via some unique traits, say like "One Roegadyn clan is big and wide, the other one is thinner than the other one and more taller). And that way we don't get the issue of the Au Ra in which "Not a fan of small cutesy women? Not a fan of large dudes? Too bad! No new race for you to enjoy." Would it take more time? Yeah, but it'd be worth it in the long run. It'd show SE's abilities to design something really interesting and show an honest attempt to appeal to more audiences.

I have a heavy feeling we won't ever get a true "beast man" race, but heck if they just made it so the current demi-beast men could look more beast like I'd be plenty satisfied (Like, fur patches on the body for Miqo'te for the men and women and maybe a more Mithra esque nose. Or more full body scales for the Au Ra instead of the scales that look like "pretty dragon cosplay" material).

Oh yeah, with the way they currently stereotype each race for a certain thing, the ability to just choose your emotes from a wide range of them would be so great. Like one of the more annoying things with the Au Ra is I really wanted a more even mix of "Hey look weird Xaela folks doing weird Xaela warring tribe things" and "Cutesy Japanese" but like so many of the girl's emotes seem to lean on the "Cutesy Japanese" thing, so having a 5'3 lady with hardly any scales and hardly being able to do emotes didn't seem too interesting. Maybe like an independent setting in the options menu that'd let you change which emote set you'd use on a fly would work.

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One of my biggest concerns is we're going to get numerous races that'll be 95% pandering to the main demographic 5% slight bones being thrown to the other crowds. So as the game grows, more and more of the audience goes to the type of race with more options, while minority races that are "Bigger/tougher looking" get smaller and smaller percentage wise due to there only being one or maybe two options for that type. That, and the whole "Sorry, that's just how it works. Maybe next race!" thing really gets me worried that the player base will recycle that phrase next race and the race after that until it disappoints them, and god only knows how annoying that'll be whenever they aren't pandered to.

Magicks? Maybe they have special horn flaps that slide up with their helmets and are very skilled at sliding cloth around them?

[SpiritMuse]

I don't really care what kind of race they make, as long as it has tall, powerful, badass looking women. I was so disappointed in the Au Ra.

[Samcaesar]

I don't really care what kind of race they make, as long as it has tall, powerful, badass looking women. I was so disappointed in the Au Ra.

Gosh, I would kill like five things additions in regards to the Au Ra
1 - A more scales options to make it look more like actual scales that cover their skin and not some weird scale themed jewelry
2 - A face that doesn't look so young and has scales that look more thicker and come of the chin (Like the guys and their chin crests)
3 - Make it possible for the girls to be as tall as the guys or guys as short as the guys
4 - A different emote set, like the ability to use girl Roegadyn ones would be sooo good imho.
5 - Horn options that let's girls choose from the guys horns too and vise versa

I'm so worried the next race we get is going to be another "Big tough guy, cute small girl" because pandering to the main demographic and Japanese audience gets them more money.

[Craiger]

There's endless option... but in the end, I don't think they will go with anything too much out of the ordinary. After all, it does take some time redesigning all armor for a specific race. Right now they mainly just scale the size of the armor, and maybe change design for ears etc, but if they went with some the races that you want, they would have to completely redo all armor for them.

There's a concept art for like an aquatic race here, and I like that one. Another aquatic one I kinda like, is this one:


If they change the feet, they could be pretty cool IMO, and they look very different to what we have, without making it a total hell for the developers to make gear for.

EDIT: picture was bigger than I thought lol