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  1. #21
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    Wizarus's Avatar
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    Justin Tymes
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 52
    Speaking of Mind Pot, what's the optimal SCH pot rotation?

    Bio, Energy Drain, Swiftcast Shadowflare, Energy Drain, Bio 2, Miasma, Aero, Energy Drain, Bio for example?
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  2. #22
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    Adrasteia's Avatar
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    Alys Brangwyn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wizarus View Post
    Speaking of Mind Pot, what's the optimal SCH pot rotation?

    Bio, Energy Drain, Swiftcast Shadowflare, Energy Drain, Bio 2, Miasma, Aero, Energy Drain, Bio for example?
    My suspicion is that it's something like:

    Precast Shadowflare -> Bio II -> Bio I (MND Pot, Energy Drain) -> Miasma -> Aero (Energy Drain, Swiftcast) -> Shadow Flare (Energy Drain, Aetherflow) -> Bio II -> Bio I (Energy Drain) [potion ends]

    It lets you squeeze in a potion-buffed version of four Energy Drains and all of your major DoTs. I need to test it out more to see if there's a more optimal point to use it at, but it doesn't seem like it.
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  3. #23
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    Choco Feru
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    Ragnarok
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Adrasteia View Post
    My suspicion is that it's something like:

    Precast Shadowflare -> Bio II -> Bio I (MND Pot, Energy Drain) -> Miasma -> Aero (Energy Drain, Swiftcast) -> Shadow Flare (Energy Drain, Aetherflow) -> Bio II -> Bio I (Energy Drain) [potion ends]

    It lets you squeeze in a potion-buffed version of four Energy Drains and all of your major DoTs. I need to test it out more to see if there's a more optimal point to use it at, but it doesn't seem like it.
    I usually use the MND potion before anything, but this rotation makes more sense if you get to cast bio2/bio at it's ending, so it's a good MND pot rotation.

    I do the Bio2/bio+Energy drain thing too on starters, and then when I'm renewing dots I use Energy Drain after any Bio or Aero because the GCD.

    Seems like we'll need Acc food ._.
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  4. #24
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    uome's Avatar
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    Uo Me
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Do yall macro these openers? I think i need to look at rearranging my bars.

    Also i started using hq marron glaze but dont think that is proper food. The spell speed isnt really noticeable and the 15 accuracy doesnt get me to cap because i still see misses.
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  5. #25
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    Kerrigen's Avatar
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    Ebi Frye
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by uome View Post
    Do yall macro these openers? I think i need to look at rearranging my bars.
    Never macro GCD actions, especially for DPS purposes. Macros disable ability queuing, which means you will inevitably delay your next action. Plus there are times when you will want to use your spells separately.
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  6. #26
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    you can hit the Acc Cap for A1 easily with the right side meldet.
    Cap should be sitting on 490 Acc. Grilled Catfish will help to, it's pretty cheap on my server since no class beside the healer realy need to watch the acc
    It also feels like that Ravana got a higher Acc Cap than A1 / A2... somehow xD
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  7. #27
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    Nathair's Avatar
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    Saoghal Fuadan
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    Raiden
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    One could easily throw nine Energy Drains in an opener if you go in with three stacks, Aetherflow already ready, and use dissipation to get other three.
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    I gave up on expecting tank/healer balance after SB.

  8. #28
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    and if i feel like it i run in close for a miasma 2
    This is always a DPS loss unless fighting multiple targets, as the potency from Miasma II is the same as Ruin/Ruin II. Better off using a Broil.
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  9. #29
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    Ara Hoshizora
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Ask for a pull countdown so you can Adlo deploy, my usual opener;

    Adlo WAR > E4E > Deploy > cleric > Shadow flare > fey wind > Pot > Bio 2
    Pull starts
    Miasma > Bio (ED) > Aero (Swiftcast) (ED) > Broil (ED) (AF) > Broil until you have to reapply your dots weaving ED between. After your opener there's no rotation just a priority system, make sure all 5 of your dots are active and broil.

    This obviously changes per fight, for example on A1S take advantage of 2 bosses and double dot both of them.

    For food take grilled sweetfish, gives acc and crit, and it's also cheap, you can also take baked pirapira but I value accuracy more.
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    Last edited by Pentt; 09-24-2015 at 08:45 AM.

  10. #30
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    Feli Aiko
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    Odin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    As a former SMN main, when switching to SCH I ended up basing part of my opening on the former's '2F1P' opener, substituting SMN's Aetherflow skills with ED accordingly, like so:

    (Cleric Stance, MND Pot, then
    Bio II > Miasma > Bio > Swiftcast > ED > Shadowflare > ED > Aero > ED + Aetherflow > Broil

    After this, you just use Broil until you have to reapply dots. Whenever you have to reapply instant spells like Bio and Aero, weave ED in-between (so for example, Bio > ED > Aero > ED > Broil, etc.)

    Never use Miasma II on single target. It has less potency (70) than Ruin/Ruin II (80).

    Hope that helps.
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