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    Player
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    Lady Rewind
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    Quote Originally Posted by LycorisSelunis View Post

    edit- I don't know the radius on assize, and the site I usually check has it listed as 0 which is wrong for sure.
    It is 15 y
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    The radius on Expanded RR is what really bugs me since AST's already questionable support game takes a big hit if you can't consistently reach everyone. This is an issue not only in fights with targets that need to be kept apart, but also an issue in general. E.g. Constantly needing to remind ranged DPS not to hide from the rest of the party is not my idea of fun.
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    Skap Onu
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    An easy and ingenious way to help Noct stance is that when your in Noct, Synastry becomes a Toggable buff you place on someone. You can lower the potency of it(25% maybe) when it's in the stance but its a permanent buff. This would act as a pseudo fairy while in this stance(heal two targets at one time). If you want to change your synastry target you will have a long cooldown before you can change it again. Would help healing out a ton on this sect and offer a good dynamic for people to choose them in raid.

    To help Dinural it's as simple as letting Collective Unconscious stay after you cast it. If you stay put and channel it the potency is higher, when you stop the potency lowers but stays put.

    Two easy changes to help the class out a whole lot. Increasing the potency of the heals is a horrible buff(adding a 100 to a heal isn't going to magical save anyone) and buffing the cards is to much. They just need their cooldowns to be better and help them heal.
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    Last edited by Skapoc; 07-25-2015 at 11:37 AM.

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    I honestly feel people just want the class to be over powered. I personally have no problem with it. I enjoy it in every way but , that's just my opinion.
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    Last edited by EnvyHope; 07-25-2015 at 01:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnvyHope View Post
    I honestly feel people just want the class to be over powered. I personally have no problem healing with it.
    Can you at the very least read the discussion instead of going for the generic "you just want to be OP"?
    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assirra View Post
    Can you at the very least read the discussion instead of going for the generic "you just want to be OP"?
    Thanks.
    I read the conversation if you're upset over my opinon I could care less Thanks (:
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnvyHope View Post
    I honestly feel people just want the class to be over powered. I personally have no problem healing with it.
    You could clear most any content in the game outside of Coil and Alex Savage with a monkey playing your healer. That doesn't mean the healer's class is balanced.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnvyHope View Post
    I honestly feel people just want the class to be over powered. I personally have no problem healing with it.
    The problem isn't whether or not they can heal we know that they can heal perfectly fine; however, compared to their peers they are the redhead stepchild that nobody wants in their parties because everything they do a whm/sch combo could do it much better. Sure the Astrologian looks great, and I can see why Square Enix decided to make them a hybrid in order to keep the perfect synergy between whm & sch; however, what they ended up doing is putting Astrologians in a awkward spot because if your a hybrid you can never be as good as a specialist automatically preventing you access to many parties unless SE decides to break the job and make it overpowered. Instead I think that the Astrologian should receive a redesign (Make their healing style unique) and make the cards the secondary mechanic of the job, this way they could compete with the specialist without being branded as the useless hybrid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    The problem isn't whether or not they can heal we know that they can heal perfectly fine; however, compared to their peers they are the redhead stepchild that nobody wants in their parties because everything they do a whm/sch combo could do it much better. Sure the Astrologian looks great, and I can see why Square Enix decided to make them a hybrid in order to keep the perfect synergy between whm & sch; however, what they ended up doing is putting Astrologians in a awkward spot because if your a hybrid you can never be as good as a specialist automatically preventing you access to many parties unless SE decides to break the job and make it overpowered. Instead I think that the Astrologian should receive a redesign (Make their healing style unique) and make the cards the secondary mechanic of the job, this way they could compete with the specialist without being branded as the useless hybrid.
    I understand what you're saying (:
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnvyHope View Post
    I honestly feel people just want the class to be over powered. I personally have no problem with it. I enjoy it in every way but , that's just my opinion.
    You havent read the thread then. Its about AST lacking the tools and healing through-put to be able to replace either WHM or SCH in progression raiding and true end game. Many of us here also dont have an issue "healing" with it. Yet we understand its weak compared to the other 2 healers, thus unable to legitimately take the raid slot of a WHM or SCH. People wanting the weakest class in the game to be buffed is not wanting it to be overpowered. So tell, since you have no issues with it, how has your foray gone into alexander savage as an AST then? How much dps have you managed to push out with it? What are your HPS figures in a raid compared to WHM in diurnal and SCH in nocturnal?
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    Last edited by DarkmoonVael; 07-25-2015 at 05:19 PM.

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