Astro in savage

[Parawill]

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Thanks! I only was solo healing since our Scholar processes information differently then I. She focuses on mechanics over healing, but then adjusts once she's more comfortable. I guess what my group needs is more familiarity with the fight and well... head bashing into the wall of progression!

Thanks for the tips, Kiki! Hopefully my raid will be able to get through with SCH & AST. I'm going to push myself to see if it's possible ;D Though, do tell about your AST friend though. Was it AST & WHM or AST & SCH for their party make-up. I'm quite interested ^-^

[CornetEspoir]

That's what my groups is planning on doing Ast/Sch I had a choice between picking Ast/Sch. I decided to stay Ast and I hope I don't end up regretting it but from what I am reading I am in for a hard time x.x

[Yhisa]

sigh i see people still trying to make out AST is ok when it is not

1) I see players comparing potency of WHM to AST yes we have slightly weaker heals, and mp cost, but this is not the problem, the problem is AST have no Cooldowns to boost there own healing at all these r the cooldowns we got

-Synastry = this is like having a fairy but for 20 secs.....
- Essential Dignity = lustrate and Tetragrammaton
(compare to other healers this is far too little and this is the problem)

and this is all the cooldown we got...... no point adding Lightspeed (4x instant cast with still a 2.XX sec recast might as well not use it and just cast normally) and Collective Unconscious is just trash i use it as a gandalf skill for " u shall not pass" and Celestial Opposition is only good to extend our own buffs for 5sec more *cough* Sprint/Cards/Lightspeed/Luminiferous Aether/ Hots....... other then that our tool kit is not very good at all... even the cards... they not worth it... and for those people who saying u need to coordinate with ur dps ... yeah dont because of this

Half way through the fight u may have an extended Balance... u shout out who have cool downs majority of the dps will say NO they havent which means ur holding onto a card for no reason ... RNG does not help or help in any dps increase at all... and i know this because now i dont bother using the cards apart from Spire and Ewer and let the bard go gun hoe if we got casters just throw ewer on him so our casters deals more damage longer foe = more damage for casters

Cards r way way way way too situational and i will show u why

Ewer (very noticeable help for raid)
= Healers MP recovery
= Bard MP recover for Longer FoE
= Mech MP recover if u need TP/MP
= Dark MP management
= Summoner MP management if low
= Do not place on Blm it screws up there rotation

Spire (Same as Ewer)
= Warrior/ Dark TP management after long fights
= Ninja > Bard> Mech> Dragoon > Monk tp regen

Spear (Only noticeable on ninja but barely)
= when players have there cooldowns up best for start of fight but after it turn useless
= Ninja For mudra no other classes matter due to heavy cooldowns
= Useless in fight due to RNG u wont be able to line this up with player cooldowns so only throw it on ninja for garentee cooldown reduction on there mudra

Balance (Minor dps increase barely noticeable)
= Any dps who is using there Cooldowns Do Not randomly throw on players just to boost there standard combo
= double duration is best for this card rest of the RR is trash only AoE version is good when u start a pull


Arrow (too strong for Mnk/Ninja... everything else barely noticeable)
= Blm > Bard > Mech in this order
= Do Not give to Monk or Ninja they will burn TP too quickly and claims that it messes up there rotation due to too fast attacks

Bole (reduction helps but barely)
= Tanks.,. nothink else

As u can see cards r too situational and very minor increase u can play ast without using ur cards... and this is a problem

[SPYX]

The short version of it, AST is viable to replace SCH but not WHM, however SCH is still better.
The long version, AST gives piety as a party bonus stat, that alone is almost enough to not want it as a WHM replacement, if you also consider WHM aoe heals you just won't even think about replacing WHM.
Replacing the SCH is viable since you have more utility, but SCH is still far better since he can do more damage, more damage mitigation, help heal at the same time he dps (selene) and he also brings some utility (selene).

[Slib]

The short version of it, AST is viable to replace SCH but not WHM, however SCH is still better.
The long version, AST gives piety as a party bonus stat, that alone is almost enough to not want it as a WHM replacement, if you also consider WHM aoe heals you just won't even think about replacing WHM.
Replacing the SCH is viable since you have more utility, but SCH is still far better since he can do more damage, more damage mitigation, help heal at the same time he dps (selene) and he also brings some utility (selene).

The only thing White Mage has against Astro in AoE healing is really just Cure 3 and an OGCD Medica (Assize). I would think AST can easily replace WHM for A3S.

[Alahra]

The only thing White Mage has against Astro in AoE healing is really just Cure 3 and an OGCD Medica (Assize). I would think AST can easily replace WHM for A3S.

Divine Seal and Medica II is also significantly more powerful than what AST can muster for AoE healing, especially given Divine Seal's cooldown--it can be up for every other Medica II if you're getting the full mileage out of the HoT portion. AST can probably replace WHM, but losing the MND bonus cuts heal and DPS potency both, so WHM/SCH is probably still the stronger combo.

[Parawill]

Raid Update:

• Replaced Ninja with a Warrior
• Old Warrior going Dragoon (behind in gear)
• Scholar left due to real life schedule not providing her any time to raid
• Picked up a White Mage
• I'm filling the Scholar role as an AST, but can change between the two

Cleared AS2 as of Sunday after all that happened. Healed in Nocturnal and had White Mage pseudo-solo heal. I didn't get to DPS as much as I would like, but as our White Mage becomes more familiar with the fight, I think we'll finally be able to let him solo heal while I feed him Ewers & and whatnots when I get the chance to.

Synastry is still beyond amazing, especially since there's no AoE healing required in AS2. My DPS is still mediocre, especially when compared to how awesome Aero III and 3-Dot Banes are, but the Expanded/Extended/Enhanced Balances are disgustingly awesome, and opening with Spear does wonder with my own MP. Not really much to say on my part besides the RNG Spires that enable my Bard to skip playing TP song.

--> Entering AS3 <---
Holding around 600 ~ 650 DPS, but am dropping to 400 because I have to jump out of Clerics to catch up on healing and currently unable to DPS until tornado phase because our WHM runs out of MP during the hand split.

Not much to say until we iron out the little things, but AS3 is fun.

[GideonHighmourn]

The short version of it, AST is viable to replace SCH but not WHM, however SCH is still better.
The long version, AST gives piety as a party bonus stat, that alone is almost enough to not want it as a WHM replacement, if you also consider WHM aoe heals you just won't even think about replacing WHM.
Replacing the SCH is viable since you have more utility, but SCH is still far better since he can do more damage, more damage mitigation, help heal at the same time he dps (selene) and he also brings some utility (selene).

I've played as both AST and WHM in savage with a SCH healing partner; any healing combination is viable, IMO.

[Kaizersan]

Yea AST/WHM is the only way to clear it safely for AST as the stacking Regen buys you enough time to do what you need to do.

[Hysterior]

I was super happy about the buffs but I think it was not enough for Alexander
I will go back to SCH from next raid
The DPS as SCH is just much better and safer (fairy spam) and the DPS check seem pretty tight in Alex right now
Mana is still an issue as AST if you want to heal and DPS

Still enjoying AST for my daily roulette, Ravana and such but in terms of Alexander right now, it won't cut it for me