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    /rest <Can I have it?> <Do you need it?>

    Considering we can't gain mp-hp anymore if we have enmity in passive mode. I think now would be a great time to add a /rest. Kinda like in FFXI, wouldn't that be swell? I for one always wanted it, but that's just me.


    EDIT: I was kinda wrong, but still /rest could be nice on longer fights.
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    Last edited by Rokien; 01-06-2012 at 04:58 AM.

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    You can recover your HPs if you are perfectly still without receiving damage, if I read it correctly, so I guess it's not needed =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renshi View Post
    You can recover your HPs if you are perfectly still without receiving damage, if I read it correctly, so I guess it's not needed =)
    But it only works if you have not incurred enmity, so you can't rest up for HP/MP in the middle of a big fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    But it only works if you have not incurred enmity, so you can't rest up for HP/MP in the middle of a big fight.
    It was explained to me that the patch notes said "when incurring enmity" which probably means when casting something. You won't be "incurring enmity" if you are just standing still and not attacking or casting anything.

    It also says:

    •HP and MP will automatically recover only while the player is stationary, regardless of whether or not he/she is engaged in battle.
    Which basically says if you stand still and not cast, you can regen MP while engaged in battle as long as you are not being attacked by the enemy.

    That's how I took it, anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naaros View Post
    It was explained to me that the patch notes said "when incurring enmity" which probably means when casting something. You won't be "incurring enmity" if you are just standing still and not attacking or casting anything.

    It also says:



    Which basically says if you stand still and not cast, you can regen MP while engaged in battle as long as you are not being attacked by the enemy.

    That's how I took it, anyways.
    Ah, I see what you're saying.

    If that is how it works, then yeah, there's no need for /rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    But it only works if you have not incurred enmity, so you can't rest up for HP/MP in the middle of a big fight.
    Still, why would you worry about your HPs if you have enmity? You should freaking run for your life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    But it only works if you have not incurred enmity, so you can't rest up for HP/MP in the middle of a big fight.
    Good and bad thing, Takes away the passive regen in long fights but if they rebalanced stats/mp properly and so on it shouldn't be needed. So no need for a /rest imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien
    Considering we can't gain mp-hp anymore if we have enmity in passive mode. I think now would be a great time to add a /rest. Kinda like in FFXI, wouldn't that be swell? I for one always wanted it, but that's just me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Esk View Post
    Good and bad thing, Takes away the passive regen in long fights but if they rebalanced stats/mp properly and so on it shouldn't be needed. So no need for a /rest imo.
    We can now cast while in passive.

    What they mean is while in passive doing NOTHING and standing still you'll regain MP/HP.
    but if you're in passive and cast a spell you'll spot regaining HP/MP until you're done casting.

    regardless of other PT members in a fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    We can now cast while in passive.

    What they mean is while in passive doing NOTHING and standing still you'll regain MP/HP.
    but if you're in passive and cast a spell you'll spot regaining HP/MP until you're done casting.

    regardless of other PT members in a fight.
    No you won't recover HP/MP while incurring enmity, so if you have any hate at all you won't be recovering anything at all. I still like it better this way even for lowmanning. A challenge is a challenge and lowmanning is meant to be more difficult. If you're lowmanning chances are you won't even have time to rest MP anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    What they mean is while in passive doing NOTHING and standing still you'll regain MP/HP.
    regardless of other PT members in a fight.
    Only if you haven't done any actions to the enemy or PT members with enmity on the enemy.

    "Players will not automatically recover HP and MP when incurring enmity."

    Honestly, I think it's a stupid system. There should be some form of recovery while sitting around inactive, regardless of your enmity level. More so for casters, since spells do take a fair amount of MP now. If you run out in the middle of a fight, you're screwed.
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