Alex Savage dps requirements?

[Nague]

Where did the person ever say healers should go full dps? He said healing and dps, and yes you can do this even on oppressor. It's directed at the weird gremlins who don't want to do any dps at all and carry around that yoshi quote as validation, as if any raid group is going to pick them over a healer who does the same healing and some dps because yoshi said so.

if you read the full thing, i said first the dps have to do their part and that on the actual boss, opressor, you do not have the luxury of for example the WHm going 800 dps for 25% of the fight.

Then he said i need to stop being bad and need to heal and dps trough the whole fight, as if its the healers resposibility to meet dps requirements when the boss does tankbusters, heavy reaid ae and nukes dps for 15k+ at the same time.
Go try and heal it and tell me about doing dps and heal at the same time.

[Ooshima]

if you read the full thing, i said first the dps have to do their part and that on the actual boss, opressor, you do not have the luxury of for example the WHm going 800 dps for 25% of the fight.

Then he said i need to stop being bad and need to heal and dps trough the whole fight, as if its the healers resposibility to meet dps requirements when the boss does tankbusters, heavy reaid ae and nukes dps for 15k+ at the same time.
Go try and heal it and tell me about doing dps and heal at the same time.

Based on your words of course you can't heal and DPS at the same time, lmao. Know when you need to exit Cleric and heal and know when your DPS windows and and go back in Cleric to throw your DoTs and stuffs.

Lucrezia have already released their A1S clear video and that's a SCH PoV BTW. If you don't know how go and watch it and learn.

[Nague]

Based on your words of course you can't heal and DPS at the same time, lmao. Know when you need to exit Cleric and heal and know when your DPS windows and and go back in Cleric to throw your DoTs and stuffs.

Lucrezia have already released their A1S clear video and that's a SCH PoV BTW. If you don't know how go and watch it and learn.

oh yeah, the SCH of the best ff14 raid is casting a few dots sometimes when the WHM has things covered, thats totally proof that healers are to be held accountable for not doing X dps.

[Wobble]

oh yeah, the SCH of the best ff14 raid is casting a few dots sometimes when the WHM has things covered, thats totally proof that healers are to be held accountable for not doing X dps.

I agree holding all groups to the same standards as one who is probably considered the best of the best is unfair for sure.

[Nadirah]

If you are looking for a clear in A1 at least this week, good luck if you continue to think that way.

I don't care to clear it first week.

Never do. They're usually bug filled holes in the first week.

[Ooshima]

Again I say I'm getting sick of This argument where people like to say if the healer doesn't dps they aren't contributing (pulling their weight) to/with the group. Well don't go in with the two healers and take a couple extra dps along and tell me how far you get when none of them can contribute to your health bar.

And also I say again gear up first.

TBH I won't disagree with you

It depends on what level of raiding you and/or your group wants to play at.

What I said would be more relevant for competitive teams who are aiming for the fastest clear they can. Of course that would be the understood pre-requisite.

But of course if your group and yourself are fine at not obtaining the clear this week or even next week to come then of course feel free to ease on your expectations.

Could it be that the 8000 enrage was on Faust, and the 6500 clear was on Oppressor? From what I've heard the Oppressor has an HP check on tanks so dps requirement wasn't as high as Faust.

6500DPS is on Faust.

Oppressor itself is about 4800DPS, 8:30min enrage timer.

[Sunako]

Only way how they can avoid make healers doing dps is make really hard heal checks where you simply have no time 2 do dps.

[Nadirah]

Only way how they can avoid make healers doing dps is make really hard heal checks where you simply have no time 2 do dps.

I actually like these.

I'm a masochist though.

And that's fine. You can play that way outside of savage. Good thing savage is optional.

And by the time everyone gets 195 or so you'll be able to do savage comfortably without your healers dpsing.

Win win.

[Khyan]

I can say without our healer's dps we probably can't pass it with the actual stuff.