Alex Savage dps requirements?

[Wobble]

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/125...dia-Event-5-19)

Yoshida: Yes. Since all DPS jobs will be increasing up through level 60, it makes sense to have the white mage's DPS extend by a proportional amount as well. For development, such as with Bahamut's Coils, the development team assumes what the item level should be for general equipment on players when they clear a raid. They sum up the basic DPS for four DPS and tanks at that assumed item level and cut that by about 10-15% for the minimum clear DPS. Healer DPS is not taken into account when this is set.

Certainly for people who are at world's first level, their goal is to clear it at as low an item level as possible, lower than the one assumed during development. So if you look at the fight and figure out that if it's not numerically possible to clear with four DPS and tanks, you'll need to make up the gap with DPS from healers. Then when those publish clear videos and other people see the healers DPSing, they might think that healers need to be DPSing even though its a situation that only arose because their clear would have otherwise been impossible. While we could take this into account, and assume a different item level in the next update which would then make it impossible to clear even with the healer DPS, we'd eliminate this type of play for highly skilled players who use communication, items, and a high level of understanding to come up with those last second clears. That would be a tough decision to make, so I still think it should be up to each party's own plans.

This is also one of the reasons we decided to implement both a normal and savage version of Alexander. Once again, healer DPS was not included in the development team's calculation as it was for other jobs, so you should just think of healer DPS as a last way to get your overall party's DPS up to where it needs to be.

That says to me the fights are not designed with healer dps in mind but only if they are able to and healing is not too intense as a last resort to push it.
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Edit: another argument I'm sick of is the one where people like to say if the healer doesn't dps they aren't contributing to the group. Well don't go in with the two healers and take a couple extra dps along and tell me how far you get when none of them can contribute to your health bar.

[Carstien]

Fights were also designed with higher ilevel in mind. To push that in current gear you'll need healer dps, he states that in the interview you just quoted.

Our healers hit 400 on faust between them and that was good enough to kill.

[KarstenS]

Fights were also designed with higher ilevel in mind. To push that in current gear you'll need healer dps, he states that in the interview you just quoted.
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The later turns. Yes.

The first turn is meant to be doable with gear you can have at day 1.

[Orbiaus]

I'll dps in cleric if I feel people won't die because of it. In A1 savage I felt they would. I can also switch fast but the tanks health was dropping fast.

[Shougun]

Wonder if Paladins will cause any specific drag, they're not known for their MT damage.

[SarcasmMisser]

You are simply not going to clear A1 savage without healer DPS contributions for a week or two at least. Everyone who says they don't have to is not getting past even Faust, you should check their achievements they are probably armchair raiders. There's a clear gear check and you're not breaking it at this point without going beyond the call.

[Wobble]

You are simply not going to clear A1 savage without healer DPS contributions for a week or two at least. Everyone who says they don't have to is not getting past even Faust, you should check their achievements they are probably armchair raiders. There's a clear gear check and you're not breaking it at this point without going beyond the call.

Ooo ooo ooo I have an idea! Gear up before rushing into it, it's not that hard to do ya know.

[SarcasmMisser]

Ooo ooo ooo I have an idea! Gear up before rushing into it, it's not that hard to do a know.

Yeah I'm going to wait longer than I need because healers are little whiny brats who want to lawyer their way to average play. Or why don't I just play with healers who do their best, as mine do.

[MisterLucie]

This entire argument is silly. A competent healer who is going to be clearing savage is going to be dpsing whenever possible, and that's all there is to it.

[SarcasmMisser]

Where did the person ever say healers should go full dps? He said healing and dps, and yes you can do this even on oppressor. It's directed at the weird gremlins who don't want to do any dps at all and carry around that yoshi quote as validation, as if any raid group is going to pick them over a healer who does the same healing and some dps because yoshi said so.