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  1. #1
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    _slowpoke_'s Avatar
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    Yayadon Yadon
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 70

    Healer Limit Breaks

    I've recently been thinking about how to make limit breaks more interesting, especially for healers. The thing is, healers rarely, if ever, get to use their limit breaks. I've played for about three months now, and I think I've used a limit break in battle as a WHM exactly once. Otherwise, it's almost always better to let a DPS player use it (which is rather boring in the long run), at least in my experience.

    I would be interested in hearing stories or opinions about how people use or feel about the limit breaking as a healer. As I've said, I haven't played for long, so I've never done any progression content so far. Have there been fights where a healer LB was important, mechanic-wise (I heard a few fights in CoB needed a tank LB to survive some mechanics, but correct me if I'm wrong)?
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    GeekMatt's Avatar
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    Stormageddon Oath
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    Brynhildr
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    DPS LB is almost always the way to go--however, I've saved parties with healer LB 1, 2, and 3(especially as BRD which now has a DPS LB). As a tank, which is my main, I've had fewer practical uses for it.

    One thing that annoys me about LBs is that people are constantly saving it, or afraid to use it. I've seen wipes happen where practically ANY of the LBs (tank being iffy) would have saved us. Healer coulda healed us all, DRG or even BLM coulda finished off the target, but instead we all died. It's a shame, but the fact is there's a lot of people out there who would complain if the melee DPS didn't get to LB, even when it's not ideal. In speedruns for example, I would much rather see a caster LB on a large pull, than a melee LB on a boss.
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    Kyett Corbeau
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    Coeurl
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GeekMatt View Post
    I've seen wipes happen where practically ANY of the LBs (tank being iffy) would have saved us.
    Really? In my experience, in situations where I could have saved the fight with an LB3, I can't, because a DPS (usually a MNK for whatever reason) blew the load as soon as the meter filled.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    As someone who cleared all of coil and having done all the current content except Ravana EX, I use my LB all the time.

    While it is true LB1 and LB2 are pretty useless, LB3 is great and can easily prevent a wipe, though I will say there are some fights that it is unfeasible to win without a DPS LB, these are few and far between.

    I remember several Turn 10 runs, for example, where someone derped on mechanics and I had to healer limit break to bring everyone back to get that last 10 or so percent off the boss. And just 2 days ago I was doing alexander floor 1 and all the DPS died due to a missile hitting and I used the healer LB, everyone rezzed, and we finished the fight.

    Healer LB3 is very strong. If anything, the tank LB should get buffed or tweaked. The only time you ever use it is when mechanics require you to.
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 07-21-2015 at 03:53 PM.

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    Kietsu's Avatar
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    Kyett Corbeau
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    Coeurl
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I did have a Titan HM run yesterday that went really, really far south, and I ended up using limit break to give our WHM some MP to work with.
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    Akyio Tayin
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Never ever used LB1 or LB2 as a healer, did use LB3 in my life several times and maybe a few times happened to save and get a win for a team. But mostly it's indeed for DPS, and DPS usually blow it as soon as possible
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    Lycoris Selunis
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    Behemoth
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    I have only ever used it twice, lb3. Both to try and save some really bad groups in chrysalis who were wiping the floor like swiffers-which was bad because then they couldn't dps lb3 the tear.

    I would like to use it more too. I feel like anytime I would use it to try and save a group I would get peeved on for 'stealing' it from the dps. Or it's one of the few fights you need a tank lb for a mechanic. I feel if people didn't feel tank/dps lb so necessary we could have more wiggle room for it but then again...you would only be using it for probably bad groups anyways since much of damage is avoidable.
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    Character
    Ebi Frye
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 80
    I saved a few Ravana Ex runs with healer LB3 and it's been mostly useful throughout, even though an obvious last resort. I just wish they removed the stupid amount of animation lock (on all 3 of them) because it'll get you killed very often.
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    Sora Kysuke
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I dislike using healer LB3. I can count on one hand how many times it has actually saved a raid I have been in when I was demanded to do so. The animation is unnecessarily long and the brief period after the fact that leaves you a sitting duck doesn't help at all.

    If it were possible to get rid of weakness debuffs, or add some protection after use like stoneskin or galvanize (related to whatever job uses it) so people don't die immediately after use would help.

    But as it stands, if tanks are dead, you are screwed. If DPS are dead during during a crunch phase, you are screwed. Not to detract though from raids that have actuality benefited from it though. I prefer not to use it and just wipe if a boss still has a considerable amount of HP left.
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    Sora Kysuke
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
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    I have never thought to use it as a preventative measure rather than a desperation one because, on my server at least, LB3 is almost exclusive to DPS unless say T13 where Tanks used it for Teraflare.
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