Crafting is dead

[Aeyis]

in between red scrip gathering nodes u can use a favor meaning its about 11hrs or slightly less all up. its quick to gather the red scrips for gathering seeing as u can get 2-4 items to hand in per node and if u hit the legendary nodes for botany and miner its even quicker to cap and also some of the fish which u can hand in for red scrips u can fish 24/7 so for gathering u can cap within 4 -5 hrs easy then use those to either buy favor for crafting gear or use it to buy gear.

That is not how it works. To begin with you cannot fit in favors between red scrip gathering for 11 hours, because you buy those favors with red scrips.
Let's say you first grind out 50 red scrips and buy a set of 5 favors. From this point on you can now use favors in between red scrip gathering.
However, you still cannot just fit in 11 hours just like that. You are not talking about 11 hours that can be divided, added, substracted randomly.


If you were to fit in more then two favors per Eorzean Hour you would lose out on either red scrip gathering time or favor gathering amount. Because of travelling time to each node, which takes up a few minutes each. (twice, since you also have to go back to the favor location)

In other words first you 50 red scrips would have to be grinded.
This would take about an hour. Lets assume access to the folklore node and one gathering class.
Then the remaining red scrips would have to be farmed with two favors in between. This would take about 8 hours.
Red scrips are now capped after 9 hours, and there are 29 favors left. Completing these require another 7 hours.

As such with the method you described (which you did not think through properly), it would take 16 hours to use up all favors. With a better rate of obtaining red scrips (multiple classes, or fishing), it will still take well over 11 hours just for the favors.

[Katchoo]

Anybody else find it annoying that the crafting gear is 2* rather than say 1* like it was in 2.00

Patricians help you make > 1* Crafting help you make > 2* crafting.

rather than...

lvl60 > make 2* crafting > make 2* crafting slightly easier for 1 craft over several weeks?

Seems dumb to me.

[Shinun]

I haven't tried red scrips yet. Been to busy leveling alts, but If I have 8 characters on the same server that can all farm red scrips. Is their a way I should handle it for my main?

[Chrolo]

I haven't tried red scrips yet. Been to busy leveling alts, but If I have 8 characters on the same server that can all farm red scrips. Is their a way I should handle it for my main?

unless they also farm favors for 11 hours each, there isnt much use into leveling alts to farm crafter red scrips. Unless you are rich as fuck and can buy all the favor mats

[Aeyis]

I haven't tried red scrips yet. Been to busy leveling alts, but If I have 8 characters on the same server that can all farm red scrips. Is their a way I should handle it for my main?

Favors would be a problem for you. It takes 11 hours per alt to cap the materials from favors. Per week.
However, having just a single alt would make obtaining the materials flexible enough for you to actually cap your crafting scrips materials made for the week.

With only one character it simply isnt possible to obtain enough favor materials to make all 9 weekly refined materials.

[scarebearz]

as surely the most dedicated crafters in this game should be able to gear up. gated is fine heck getting field 3's way back when was a major chore, but atleast that fell onto us to be willing to spend our time to grind those things out. as did all previous crafting progression steps.

this current system breaks what has made crafting fun and sometimes frustrating in this game.

Yeah :/

I was mostly fine with the previous "gates" for high end crafting, but weekly lockout on mats is just insane.

Worse because you need to be a pretty serious gatherer to get favors, but even then, the ones who would like to make gil farming them can't due to the lockouts.

[BushWookie]

So endgame crafting is gated behind gathering!?

I'm gonna meld out i150 anyway in hopes that SE sees the light and makes mats more accessible.

[Seyb]

So endgame crafting is gated behind gathering!?

Isn't everything gated behind gathering?^^ Jokes aside, you can get very good gear (mainhand and body) for yourself with crafting alone (through the exchange of red scrips tokens). It takes a bit longer (5 weekly caps of red scrips) and you need materials (as always) from gathering, too. But they aren't limited.

That aside, all the new 2 star crafts are very limited, yes.

[Astral145]

IKR I got all crafts and gathering classes to 50 last year and only got up to 2* for every class. I enjoyed crafting on a casual basis it helped pass the time and allowed me to save up for a tiny house. I look at 3.0 crafting/gathering and ran as fast as I could to get away from that insane grind. It's not fun anymore and its not for most casuals either. So yea to me crafting/gathering is something not worth going for anymore.

[BushWookie]

Well I fall asleep gathering so I guess that means /unsubscribe