Crafting is dead

[scarebearz]

Indeed. I could only make one item this week, as I'm unable to collect enough materials needed for a second item. Being capped at making one item a week is rather harsh.

Your lucky to have got mats to make 1 item a week! lol

I have had 450 red crafter scrips since 30 mins after the patch and not managed to get enough of the favor items to get any mats...

I don't gather and people will likely say "haha hard luck lvl gathers newb", but I am a crafter, I have no wish to gather.

[Sibyll]

Your lucky to have got mats to make 1 item a week! lol

I have had 450 red crafter scrips since 30 mins after the patch and not managed to get enough of the favor items to get any mats...

I don't gather and people will likely say "haha hard luck lvl gathers newb", but I am a crafter, I have no wish to gather.

The only way I'd be able to spend all my crafting scrips is if I spent x3 to get the HQ mats. I'm sitting on an off hand and 250 red crafting scrips. At this rate I'll never be gearing my gatherer except with crafted right side gear.

I'm guessing there will be a market for selling excess favor mats, but it's hard to put a price on something with a weekly limit.

[Alexiell]

I'm guessing there will be a market for selling excess favor mats, but it's hard to put a price on something with a weekly limit.

That was probably the idea, that you can buy from other gatherers/crafters. The problem is that most people have no interest in selling favor items. They gather favors for their own crafts or save the red scrips for gear upgrades. Some put favor mats on the market board for insane prices, just in case that some rich person has too much gil, but i see almost 0 transactions happening for the 3.0.5 stuff so far.

[Chrolo]

Your lucky to have got mats to make 1 item a week! lol

I have had 450 red crafter scrips since 30 mins after the patch and not managed to get enough of the favor items to get any mats...

I don't gather and people will likely say "haha hard luck lvl gathers newb", but I am a crafter, I have no wish to gather.

yeah thats the sad thing about this system, getting red scrips on crafter is easy, but then youre forced to gather 11 hours a week.

[kenventa]

yeah thats the sad thing about this system, getting red scrips on crafter is easy, but then youre forced to gather 11 hours a week.

I have to correct you. Gather A LOT MORE than 11 hours a week since you would need to account the amount of time getting the red scrips. I had barely time to craft or to raid anymore.

And actually, what i think the saddest thing is with the changes is the lack of attention we are getting from Yoshida or the Dev Team.

[kaya_suzumiya]

I have to correct you. Gather A LOT MORE than 11 hours a week since you would need to account the amount of time getting the red scrips. I had barely time to craft or to raid anymore.

And actually, what i think the saddest thing is with the changes is the lack of attention we are getting from Yoshida or the Dev Team.

in between red scrip gathering nodes u can use a favor meaning its about 11hrs or slightly less all up. its quick to gather the red scrips for gathering seeing as u can get 2-4 items to hand in per node and if u hit the legendary nodes for botany and miner its even quicker to cap and also some of the fish which u can hand in for red scrips u can fish 24/7 so for gathering u can cap within 4 -5 hrs easy then use those to either buy favor for crafting gear or use it to buy gear.

[kenventa]

in between red scrip gathering nodes u can use a favor meaning its about 11hrs or slightly less all up.

Nah. I prefer to maximize the 15 min of Favor in one place and gathering the right nodes rather than teleporting around different maps trying to catch nodes.

Adamantite (11) - Sun Mica (5) - Chysal (9) - Adamantite (11) - Seventh (5), i don't think there is anywhere in between this that would let me maximize the Favor. Also, i prefer gathering for nodes which i require rather than just popping favor in Churnist Mist (since Seventh is near) then selling them to buy red ooids.

[Aeyis]

in between red scrip gathering nodes u can use a favor meaning its about 11hrs or slightly less all up. its quick to gather the red scrips for gathering seeing as u can get 2-4 items to hand in per node and if u hit the legendary nodes for botany and miner its even quicker to cap and also some of the fish which u can hand in for red scrips u can fish 24/7 so for gathering u can cap within 4 -5 hrs easy then use those to either buy favor for crafting gear or use it to buy gear.

That is not how it works. To begin with you cannot fit in favors between red scrip gathering for 11 hours, because you buy those favors with red scrips.
Let's say you first grind out 50 red scrips and buy a set of 5 favors. From this point on you can now use favors in between red scrip gathering.
However, you still cannot just fit in 11 hours just like that. You are not talking about 11 hours that can be divided, added, substracted randomly.


If you were to fit in more then two favors per Eorzean Hour you would lose out on either red scrip gathering time or favor gathering amount. Because of travelling time to each node, which takes up a few minutes each. (twice, since you also have to go back to the favor location)

In other words first you 50 red scrips would have to be grinded.
This would take about an hour. Lets assume access to the folklore node and one gathering class.
Then the remaining red scrips would have to be farmed with two favors in between. This would take about 8 hours.
Red scrips are now capped after 9 hours, and there are 29 favors left. Completing these require another 7 hours.

As such with the method you described (which you did not think through properly), it would take 16 hours to use up all favors. With a better rate of obtaining red scrips (multiple classes, or fishing), it will still take well over 11 hours just for the favors.

[chidarake]

Your lucky to have got mats to make 1 item a week! lol

I have had 450 red crafter scrips since 30 mins after the patch and not managed to get enough of the favor items to get any mats...

I don't gather and people will likely say "haha hard luck lvl gathers newb", but I am a crafter, I have no wish to gather.

ive seen you on this forum posting so many times over the last year sharing knowledge and helping people, you've been a major crafter and yet you of all people and people like yourself cant even get 1 piece of gear because of this new system says something doesn't it.?

as surely the most dedicated crafters in this game should be able to gear up. gated is fine heck getting field 3's way back when was a major chore, but atleast that fell onto us to be willing to spend our time to grind those things out. as did all previous crafting progression steps.

this current system breaks what has made crafting fun and sometimes frustrating in this game.

I myself spent 3-4 days to max my crafters and gatherers so I would be in a good place for when new stuff came out. I held back on melds for the chimerical set to see what would be needed so I could meet the stat req's to make the new gear, then I see that it means nothing because we are all gated behind bs weekly lock out that relies so heavily on gatherer and crafter classes supplies at a time when the majority of people playing the game have not even bothered to level one of these classes.

surely someone in the dev team must of said to Yoshi that this system is broken in so many ways, are you really sure you want to piss of the crafter / gatherer player-base.??

the problem with the current bis set is not that there is nothing to make with it to recoup costs as that chance will come im sure, its just that when that chance comes the things you can make will be so over priced to the point that only a very small % of people could potentially afford it. especially given the amount of mats that will be needed, like 10 dusk leathers or some such nonsense.

things already have very inflated prices, like chimera manes selling for 5k a pop nq and that's the cheaper price now. heck even deep eye tears are still selling for 6k a pop nq and mogpoms at 8knq. screw crafting im gathering for gil and not taking part in this stupid ass grind. and in the case of something like mogpoms theres no rng as you always get a mogpom from that fishing hole.

[scarebearz]

as surely the most dedicated crafters in this game should be able to gear up. gated is fine heck getting field 3's way back when was a major chore, but atleast that fell onto us to be willing to spend our time to grind those things out. as did all previous crafting progression steps.

this current system breaks what has made crafting fun and sometimes frustrating in this game.

Yeah :/

I was mostly fine with the previous "gates" for high end crafting, but weekly lockout on mats is just insane.

Worse because you need to be a pretty serious gatherer to get favors, but even then, the ones who would like to make gil farming them can't due to the lockouts.