Quote Originally Posted by Hoobala_Boobala View Post
Effort =/= reward atm and the frankly the actual "game" of crafting and gathering (at the highest level/endgame) is no longer fun

Lucis was bad enough, you could do anything without it. This grind is even worse, and if the fun is taken out of a game its not a game anymore but work. And while working i at least get my monthly wage. 11.5hrs of favors plus 15+ times of getting gathering scrip plus the time getting mats for crafting red scrip.

Casual? I wanna see if a casual got 20+hrs (and motivation to even try) per week just to be able to craft for craftings sake - i for my part as an all 60 crafting/gathering 8 days in 3.0 am done with it until they change something. If they dont, well, they might loose a customer with 720 days active subscription once im done with all battle classes. Im still undecided, but if i cant gear my classes to a proper level without putting 20+hrs per week in - leveling battle classes only gets you so far...