Crafting is dead

[Magistrella]

3 weeks to get one tool, 24 to get them for all classes. Then the endless grind to get the mats to be able to make the gear.

I will get my weekly 450 and i will get token with it. But i wont get tools or materials.

The system is too complicated and the gating sucks. I want to make my own shit on my own time on my own conditions and not buy crap from the MB for ridiculous prices because i did not spend 3 month getting scrip and can not make it.

So... yeah - thanks SE for ruining crafting - it was fun while it lasted. Now its tedious as irl work, and there i at least get a good wage out of it and not some shitty data that will be useless when you decide to release new gear.

So long ('-')/

[Chrolo]

While i dislike this approach to crafting alot, you can also view it in another way:

Now while everything is gated you can just do your weekly craft and then spend your time doing everything else.
Crafting didnt get suddenly more time consuming, it just takes more time to gear up. It gives casual crafters a chance to catch up since everyone can only progress so much (except you find someone to sell you the scrip mats and/or have the money to buy them)

So after i said that, SE plz change =D Dont want to gear up all my crafting classes just for you to end up implementing universal crafting equipment in 2 or 3 patches

[Aeyis]

Crafting didnt get suddenly more time consuming, it just takes more time to gear up. It gives casual crafters a chance to catch up since everyone can only progress so much (except you find someone to sell you the scrip mats and/or have the money to buy them)

Except it doesnt. Casual crafters will take even longer because they cant make their own equipment. So they will be forced to go the longer route of buying their equipment directly with red scrips.

Now while everything is gated you can just do your weekly craft and then spend your time doing everything else.

Btw, since all 2* have materials locked behind red scrips, you wont even be able to make a single one or you will take x weeks longer to obtain your own equipment.

So, what's the time-frame to fully gear all 8?

About 32 weeks if you craft them all yourself. (rough estimate) That's ofcourse assuming you HQ every single one of them. Without HQ scrip materials. (so only at about 5/11 or such starting HQ). Havent counted the ''bought with scrips'' route, but its much longer. (2 tools per week if crafted, 1 tools per 3 weeks if bought)

[Kekeri]

3 weeks to get one tool, 24 to get them for all classes. Then the endless grind to get the mats to be able to make the gear.

I will get my weekly 450 and i will get token with it. But i wont get tools or materials.

...

So long ('-')/

So, what's the time-frame to fully gear all 8?

Honestly, I missed the time-wall for Poetics, and I find the idea of 3 weeks for a weapon (I have about three weeks left on my sub) to be too much. I'm also a builder-o'-the-realm though, and so I decided to see if crafting was in a better place (and then I could do that instead of esoteric grinding). It seems to actually be worse considering leveling just one crafter isn't particularly viable financially. Ouch.

[Nezerius]

So, what's the time-frame to fully gear all 8?

Honestly, I missed the time-wall for Poetics, and I find the idea of 3 weeks for a weapon (I have about three weeks left on my sub) to be too much. I'm also a builder-o'-the-realm though, and so I decided to see if crafting was in a better place (and then I could do that instead of esoteric grinding). It seems to actually be worse considering leveling just one crafter isn't particularly viable financially. Ouch.

If you're getting all of the red scrips yourself, it'll take almost a year to fully gear every crafting job
That's assuming you take this route of gearing:

Unmeldable gear

• 1300 scrips per unmeldable mainhand tool/10400 in total
• 900 scrips per unmeldable chestpiece/4500 in total

Meldable gear (using scrips to buy the materials)

• 150 scrips per head/1200 in total
• 150 scrips per gloves/1200 in total
• 150 scrips per boots/1200 in total
• 200 scrips per pants/2000 in total

Crafted-only gear

• 150 scrips per offhand/1200 in total
• 100 scrips per accessory (necklace, earrings, wrist, belt)/400 in total
• 50 scrips per ring/100 in total

For a grand total of 22200 red scrips. At 450 per week, that will take 50 weeks to get (49.3 to be exact) or 2 weeks less than a year.
It'll be less if you also get the meldable versions of the mainhand tools and chestpieces, or if you buy the materials off the marketboard. But melding will be very pricey when trying to get the stats on par with the unmeldable versions.

Though, I assume they'll nerf the cost of the gear before then, hopefully.

[Sleepyjo2]

So, what's the time-frame to fully gear all 8?

Honestly, I missed the time-wall for Poetics, and I find the idea of 3 weeks for a weapon (I have about three weeks left on my sub) to be too much. I'm also a builder-o'-the-realm though, and so I decided to see if crafting was in a better place (and then I could do that instead of esoteric grinding). It seems to actually be worse considering leveling just one crafter isn't particularly viable financially. Ouch.

It's like 8.2 weeks or something to just buy the gear for a single class or something like that. I did the math earlier but am not sure if I'm remembering correctly. Assuming that number is correct it puts it at 65.6 weeks to gear all 8 using only the scrip items.

At some point it would be more cost efficient to buy the materials and craft some gear, but still.

[Magistrella]

So, what's the time-frame to fully gear all 8?

Well, first we need to compare HQ i170 meldable gear (crafted) and i180 not meldable token gear

for example sake lets compare the GSM bodies: i170 HQ: 4 CP 70 Control 225 Craftmanship - i180 token: 4 CP 75 Control 239 Craftmanship

18 token for the body + 1 counterfoil (i have no clue how to get them yet)

Materials for the crafted body: 4 token for the materials and after that a shitload of luck to HQ it in the beginning even with melded gear, 447 CP and specialization skills. (not to mention the 4 field demi materia, the 14 precrafts and items you need from fieldcraft - aka get 4950 scrip for a stupid book so you can get 1 or 2 materials)

If you just go with token gear (hell, i know that's what ill be doing for wvr/ltw so i can craft the rest of the gear, maybe...) you will need 48 token for the gear + 26 for the tool, so 74 total, or 3700 scrip - or 8 weeks + 100 scrip from the next week. So a good 2 month for one class.

Which means in the end if you just want to go with token gear you will need a total of 66 weeks to be able to get them all. Or 1 year and 3 month 1 week. Overkill FTW!

If you just get token gear for WVR/LTW and craft the rest tho, you will be considerably faster. You will be able to get 2 pieces per week, sometimes 3. But hey, that still puts you down 16 weeks of mindless grinding for materials