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    Quote Originally Posted by jazo View Post
    you guys whining that upgrade items are obtainable in end game hardest raid realize that those upgrade items will be eventually be obtainable in the new 24 man raid in next patch right? no?


    Enjoy the challenge at your pace and let L337 people get entertained doing something to show off
    Again why do you (the raiders) need two sets of 210 gear? Because you have. 210 is the only tier with two sets of gear at the moment.

    Also doesn't it bother you that you have to do the same content regardless of which set you want? Instead of maybe two raids of the same difficulty.

    Giving the upgrades to the 24 will enable us (not hardcore raiders) to have gear on par with wath drops from Alex savage. That is unfair for you.

    This system screws over everyone.

    And for the last time, the esoterics upgrades are pointless for you as the very same floors also drop 210 gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    And for the last time, the esoterics upgrades are pointless for you as the very same floors also drop 210 gear.
    each floor only drops 2 items for 8 people. you need both the upgraded Eso drops + Savage drops to get a good iLv so that "mid-tier" raiders can meet the DPS and health checks of the higher floors. getting Savage Gloves doesn't make the i210 Esoteric boots useless to someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    each floor only drops 2 items for 8 people. you need both the upgraded Eso drops + Savage drops to get a good iLv so that "mid-tier" raiders can meet the DPS and health checks of the higher floors. getting Savage Gloves doesn't make the i210 Esoteric boots useless to someone.
    A fair point. So explain please why

    1. 210 is the only tier with two gear sets

    2. are both sets obtainable from the same raid instead of two similarry difficult pieces of content

    3. isn't the loot a mix of 210 gear and tokens to buy the once that didn't drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    A fair point. So explain please why

    1. 210 is the only tier with two gear sets

    2. are both sets obtainable from the same raid instead of two similarry difficult pieces of content

    3. isn't the loot a mix of 210 gear and tokens to buy the once that didn't drop.
    1. Why shouldn't it be? You don't need to mix and match a bis 180 set for anything.

    2. What other piece of difficult content?

    3. It is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    1. Why shouldn't it be? You don't need to mix and match a bis 180 set for anything.

    2. What other piece of difficult content?

    3. It is.
    1. to give you a choice

    2. Content that wasn't made but should have been.

    3. It is not. Current is: token for gear plus upgrades for different gear. What I proposed was actual 210 gear, plus token to buy that very same gear. Let's say for example you got a belt and a token from a run. You then go and buy an accessory or a pair of shoes with the token.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    A fair point. So explain please why

    1. 210 is the only tier with two gear sets

    2. are both sets obtainable from the same raid instead of two similarry difficult pieces of content

    3. isn't the loot a mix of 210 gear and tokens to buy the once that didn't drop.
    1) because 210 is the highest level and you want the highest level gear to bridge the gap for people who can't clear Alex Savage at i190. nobody needs two sets of i180 gear.
    2) it takes 3 months of development cost to develop another piece of similarly difficult content, are you going to pay them for it?
    3) yes and?
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