Are hunts irrelevant now?

[Altijacek]

I feel the need to respond to this. Why would you respond with that tone? You could just say that hunts are good for those gearing up other jobs rather than being so snarky.

My apologies. Very frustrated in real life atm. Didn't sleep. Was just kinda bothered that some people don't seem to consider other players. Like "oh this isn't good for me, it's pointless." When in reality to somebody else it still serves a purpose. Just because it doesn't serve one person a purpose doesn't mean somebody else won't use it. In any case, sorry.

[jazo]

you guys whining that upgrade items are obtainable in end game hardest raid realize that those upgrade items will be eventually be obtainable in the new 24 man raid in next patch right? no?

even so... other than e-peen what is the point in having the latest highest gear if it is obtainable in the hardest raid... you will have it and... what then? where will you use that new gear if there is no more challenge???

Enjoy the challenge at your pace and let L337 people get entertained doing something to show off

[Balipu]

you guys whining that upgrade items are obtainable in end game hardest raid realize that those upgrade items will be eventually be obtainable in the new 24 man raid in next patch right? no?


Enjoy the challenge at your pace and let L337 people get entertained doing something to show off

Again why do you (the raiders) need two sets of 210 gear? Because you have. 210 is the only tier with two sets of gear at the moment.

Also doesn't it bother you that you have to do the same content regardless of which set you want? Instead of maybe two raids of the same difficulty.

Giving the upgrades to the 24 will enable us (not hardcore raiders) to have gear on par with wath drops from Alex savage. That is unfair for you.

This system screws over everyone.

And for the last time, the esoterics upgrades are pointless for you as the very same floors also drop 210 gear.

[Ashkendor]

Enjoy the challenge at your pace and let L337 people get entertained doing something to show off

Um. I hate to break it to you, but raiders don't raid to "show off" for non-raiders or to make them feel inferior or anything of the sort. We don't roll into the content and say to ourselves 'lol think how shitty those scrubs out there are gonna feel when we clear this and stand in town so they can see all of our shiny gear'. We actually raid to challenge ourselves and to progress in the game. Novel concept, I know.

And for the last time, the esoterics upgrades are pointless for you as the very same floors also drop 210 gear.

No they aren't. Both sets have different stat allocations. BiS will end up being a mix of both sets.

[SendohJin]

And for the last time, the esoterics upgrades are pointless for you as the very same floors also drop 210 gear.

each floor only drops 2 items for 8 people. you need both the upgraded Eso drops + Savage drops to get a good iLv so that "mid-tier" raiders can meet the DPS and health checks of the higher floors. getting Savage Gloves doesn't make the i210 Esoteric boots useless to someone.

[Kaedan]

I've gained two levels on MCH just through doing hunts with my wife. Even if the seals aren't useful anymore, the XP is for leveling.

[Themis]

Seems like the only reason to do hunts after 3.0 was to upgrade Law equipment. With new Tomes released now, is there any reason to do hunts anymore?

The new tomes are capped at 450 per week. You will not have a full set of AF2 in a week, or even several weeks.

The i190 gear from Alex normal is also gated behind a weekly limit.

This means that the i180 Law gear is the most easily accessible gear for any player gearing up a job. What this patch has given is a way for those who do not care for the hunts (like myself) to get those upgrade items for i180 gear. This gear is more than enough for any content besides Alex Savage.

The new gear is really designed to give people doing Alex Savage a better chance at success. The upgrades for that, which only come from Alex Savage, are there to help those players beat the content and farm it better.

Unless you intend on doing this content, the Esoterics stuff isn't even necessary.

But if you only play 1 job and already have full i180 or better, then no, you don't need to do any more hunts. Everyone else still does, though, so we will continue to get our gear through that (or via Law directly)

[Balipu]

each floor only drops 2 items for 8 people. you need both the upgraded Eso drops + Savage drops to get a good iLv so that "mid-tier" raiders can meet the DPS and health checks of the higher floors. getting Savage Gloves doesn't make the i210 Esoteric boots useless to someone.

A fair point. So explain please why

1. 210 is the only tier with two gear sets

2. are both sets obtainable from the same raid instead of two similarry difficult pieces of content

3. isn't the loot a mix of 210 gear and tokens to buy the once that didn't drop.

[Malevicton]

A fair point. So explain please why

1. 210 is the only tier with two gear sets

2. are both sets obtainable from the same raid instead of two similarry difficult pieces of content

3. isn't the loot a mix of 210 gear and tokens to buy the once that didn't drop.

1. Why shouldn't it be? You don't need to mix and match a bis 180 set for anything.

2. What other piece of difficult content?

3. It is.

[Maero]

I still do my full 3 stacks of hunts every day for seals and there are still hunt groups out there so it is not irrelevant, not yet anyhow