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    Quote Originally Posted by Akyio View Post
    But does it really matter? As esoteric healer gear is full of piety/spellspeed from what i saw, not like there really is much choice.
    Actually it is not loaded with spell speed.

    Hat Piety/Determination
    Body Piety/Crit
    Arms Piety/Spell Speed
    Legs Piety/Determination
    Feet Crit/Determination
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akyio View Post
    But does it really matter? As esoteric healer gear is full of piety/spellspeed from what i saw, not like there really is much choice.
    I didnt check the eso gears but from what I seen sch wouldnt go crit aswell and thats no-no-no-no-way. Ill focus to upgrade critpieces > rest and in case the old and new pieces both have no crit those will be right after. For me the rest only gets replaced if I am strongly in need of the additional HP or mind and for the HP I would even rather see what I can get crafted.

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Actually it is not loaded with spell speed.

    Hat Piety/Determination
    Body Piety/Crit
    Arms Piety/Spell Speed
    Legs Piety/Determination
    Feet Crit/Determination
    looks rather like a piety focus....
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    Quote Originally Posted by amihavingfunyet View Post
    Spellspeed is increasing HoT heal, so you might want to look into it if you play in Diurnal.

    Any AST playing in Noct sect of their own choice needs to have a slap in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashquar View Post
    Any AST playing in Noct sect of their own choice needs to have a slap in the face.
    Noct sect is quite broken for front line tho soo Noct onry for pvp.
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    Crit is always exponential, remember that. The more you stack (and some jobs can stack over 800CRT @ i210) the greater effect it'll have.

    Same for Spellspeed, its exponential the more you stack, but if AST is running into MP issues (I don't know much about AST) then of course, it'll have a negative impact over the entire encounter. Also! SS scales DoTs/HoTs approximately 0.0001 per SS from 354, which is basically hardly anything.

    Determination will always be a linear stat and nothing changes this. Its value on your Heals and damage will increase however as your primary (Mind) and Magic Damage stats increase.

    The issue is whether you want a constant flow of heals or prefer being an RNG healer. At i210 with a Dragoon in your raid, your approximate CRT will be 16-17%. Weights wise, it'll always be Crit > DET > SS, but you may opt for Determination if you don't like that 16% RNG and/or if it is too risky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyEstheim View Post
    Noct sect is quite broken for front line tho soo Noct onry for pvp.
    Can confirm. You need several people in order to successfully chase down and kill a Noct AST. It's hilarious.
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    At this point in time, are you guys going for your af2 upgraded gears or are you going for Alex savage gears?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akyio View Post
    But does it really matter? As esoteric healer gear is full of piety/spellspeed from what i saw, not like there really is much choice.
    overall I found this looking at each healer's unique esoteric set with the shared belt/jewelry-
    ast esoteric gear has 7 pie bonuses, 4 crit, 5 det, and 4 ss
    sch esoteric gear has 7 pie, 4 crit, 4 det, and 5 ss
    whm esoteric has 7 pie, 5 crit, 5 det, and 3 ss
    the whm weapon is pie/crit and the sch/ast weapons are pie/ss.

    the Gordian weapons whm is pie/ss and sch/ast are pie/det

    normal alex gear is 7 pie, 4 crit, 4 det, and 5 ss
    savage alex gear is 7 pie, 5 crit, 4 det, and 4 ss

    although each 'set' has 7 pie bonuses, they aren't necessarily on the same bits of gear. You can probably get the stat weights you want with a combo of alex/esoterics gear although the base esoterics gear made me giggle at sch especially-not getting the most crit.
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    Crit if you play Nocturnal, Det if you play Diurnal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Crit if you play Nocturnal, Det if you play Diurnal.
    Crit and det for both tbh. AST's lower pot heals benefit more from the crit, shields benefit and the HoTs can crit too so just crit all around.

    And when Essential Dignity crits it's just so sexy.
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