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    Vlady's Avatar
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 60

    Thank you for the Astrologian buffs.

    Not sure at the insanity of the healer forums right now but in regards to the silent majority and others who understand astrologians are on par with scholar and white mage all thank you SE for making this wonderful job. It is time to let the complaint threads die down until proof of our weakness in Savage and not just people trying to brain wash people with so much negativity.
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    Avens Cook
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    Lich
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    The thing is, astro's are still not on par with White mage and scholar. The buffs today where very minor. Lightspeed is still not an emergency heal at all because of the global cooldown, you don't heal more with it. And while the card buffs are a little bit better, the scholar haste buffs still is superior.
    The lack of healing cooldowns of AST is still there, and the cards can't make up for it (Still RNG, shuffle to get same card etc.).
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    Last edited by Vihalo; 07-21-2015 at 10:43 PM.

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    it no longer reduces healing potency. It is a emergency cooldown. We have them now along with synastry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    it no longer reduces healing potency. It is a emergency cooldown. We have them now along with synastry.
    Again, it does not heal more because of the global cooldown so it is not really an emergency cooldown, just the first cast brings faster output (slightly faster, because you have to press lightspeed first) and then you can just move around while casting, which is nice, but very situtional.
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    Last edited by Vihalo; 07-21-2015 at 10:58 PM.

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    Reimu Hakurei
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vihalo View Post
    Again, it does not heal more because of the global cooldown so it is not really an emergency cooldown, just the first cast brings faster output (slightly faster, because you have to press lightspeed first) and then you can just move around while casting, which is nice, but very situtional.
    Since your first cast is instant tho, at the end of a 10 seconds timeframe your hps would be slightly higher even accounting for gcd. Lightspeed kinda makes you heal a bit more only to make you heal a bit leas once it ends. Still it increases your hps within its duration.
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    Moonest Gainsbourg
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vihalo View Post
    It does not heal more because of the global cooldown so it is not really an emergency cooldown, just the first cast brings faster output (slightly faster, because you have to press lightspeed first) and then you can just move around while casting, which is nice, but very situtional.
    It now also reduce mp cost by 25%. So thats a big plue. Im surprise that they didnt touch Nocturnal sect at all to be honest. They buffed CU for Dirunal Sect (which i dont think needed any buff) but left the Nocturnal Sect ver of it alone. This to me means that they are telling us to just use Diurnal and dont even bother with Nocturnal lol
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Since your first cast is instant tho, at the end of a 10 seconds timeframe your hps would be slightly higher even accounting for gcd. Lightspeed kinda makes you heal a bit more only to make you heal a bit leas once it ends. Still it increases your hps within its duration.
    Yeah might be, but does this slightly higher hps justify it's existence with a 150 second cooldown? And will the 25% mana reduce with the 3-4 spells you can cast in this time help with mana problems of AST?

    If you look at it closely the spell is really not that useful in raid environment, just like most of the spells you get from lv 50-60 on AST.
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    Last edited by Vihalo; 07-21-2015 at 11:11 PM.

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    Stormageddon Oath
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    Brynhildr
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    As someone who utilizes Switcast in "oh s#@%" moments to pick up a tank, I'm very happy to have a second Swiftcast that is actually slightly better for the particular situation as it allows me to instantly Benefic II tank, Synestry, then instant Benefic II a DPS. Basically 1.5 Benegic IIs on a tank and a Benefic II on a DPS in a single GCD, but better because I did get that additional urgent heal off on the tank AND am able to run around healing

    I'm not totally thrilled about the TP/MP regeneration at a lower timer, since it means we can't assist DRK anymore, which was a unique utility we had and was useful on dungeon runs, but otherwise, not a big change there and it certainly has it's upside. Changes to Spread and Shuffle are faaannntastic

    The adjustment to collective unconscious is nice but meh. Increasing the usefulness of Diurnal is just increasing the gap between the usefulness of that stance vs Nocturnal which makes me a sad Lala. I really wish Nocturnal was a bit more viable, I'm a big fan. As for the job as a whole, I wouldn't compare it to the other two healers--it's a fully capable healer but it's added range of utility directly results in lower potential for healing and shielding. I feel that AST serves a very real purpose in parties as a utility co-pilot alongside a WHM or SCH. I do wish we had more though--maybe just in DPS, though personally I dream of a stance dancing AST.
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    Last edited by GeekMatt; 07-21-2015 at 11:19 PM.

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    Xyth Dinh
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    Excalibur
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    Bard Lv 80
    The Lightspeed change is really better than what it was. It may not be on par with the rest of the other healers emergency heals, but I could see myself using Lightspeed to turn a potential downfall right back up.
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    Shiki Lockhart
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    I liked the buffs a lot. Lightspeed is good because at 25% lower mp heal the same and you can spam helios with that too on massive aoes from boss. I loved the change on cards effect specially ewer and spire. Now we got all cards useful. If you want to increase dps you would have to sacrifice 1 of the cards (spear or arrow) to be aoe and now not. Then you get a spire or ewer - aoe them - use the other one on spread and done. The ewer and spire refresh rates for what i tested in dungeon and alexander NM are very good, MP issues are gone now.
    I think is the same as a bard song if not better, just doesn't take forever like bard song until they run out of mp. THe other good usage of that would be ewer the bard that is using a song to them last longer xD

    I am stil sad is with shuffle, still can roll the same card you wanted to trade for other one >_>
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