Applications Vs Registrations

[Holy_Dragoon]

The only problem with applications is that they can sometimes demand too much information when it's something simple like joining a social shell. However with the lack of administration options I guess leaders would rather be sure of what type of person they are letting into their shell since they are unable to kick them afterwards.

This is pretty much it, our app helps us figure out if you're a decent human being. We don't like kicking anyone if we can avoid it. Removing players causes all kinds of issues to begin with, sometimes issues that were not even there to begin with. It's a game and we just want to have fun.

[Fouluryu]

This is pretty much it, our app helps us figure out if you're a decent human being. We don't like kicking anyone if we can avoid it. Removing players causes all kinds of issues to begin with, sometimes issues that were not even there to begin with. It's a game and we just want to have fun.

What about applications can be vice versa? It can either help you or hurt you based on a personal experience. Word of mouth moves fast, but seeing action is a different story from one's view. For example, a bad experience can lead gamers causing defamation (aka slander) making faulty un supportive evidence of the player's activity.

But then again, registering would make more sense to have a reference than a useless application. My opinion would be to just speak with the person in game or on skype. Applications are just an excuse causing peer pressure. If I can type well in game, you don't need me to type so elegantly describing myself.

[Eekiki]

What about applications can be vice versa? It can either help you or hurt you based on a personal experience. Word of mouth moves fast, but seeing action is a different story from one's view. For example, a bad experience can lead gamers causing defamation (aka slander) making faulty un supportive evidence of the player's activity.

Funny, hearing this from you.

But then again, registering would make more sense to have a reference than a useless application. My opinion would be to just speak with the person in game or on skype. Applications are just an excuse causing peer pressure. If I can type well in game, you don't need me to type so elegantly describing myself.

I don't know what you mean by "registering". I don't understand much of what you said at all, really. The application process is what gives you a reference, since most of them (any of them worth their salt at least) will have a question about "Were you referred to this Linkshell, and by whom?"

Our linkshell app is simple. What's your name? What's your highest class? Who (if anyone) referred you? Why do you want to join us? What would you like to know about us before you join?

Nothing about demanding allegiance, listing past achievements, committing to hours of playtime per week. It's nothing more than a medium for introducing yourself to the LS and stating your desire to join.

[Fouluryu]

Funny, hearing this from you.



I don't know what you mean by "registering". I don't understand much of what you said at all, really. The application process is what gives you a reference, since most of them (any of them worth their salt at least) will have a question about "Were you referred to this Linkshell, and by whom?"

Our linkshell app is simple. What's your name? What's your highest class? Who (if anyone) referred you? Why do you want to join us? What would you like to know about us before you join?

Nothing about demanding allegiance, listing past achievements, committing to hours of playtime per week. It's nothing more than a medium for introducing yourself to the LS and stating your desire to join.

You forgot to mention your Ls enforces people to go to events or they'll get a personal advisory for missing an event. I don't want that. I choose to play FFXIV to be a casual game not someone who (not you) is a pencil pusher demanding me to do things that I set my time between work & gaming.

Instead of applications, you can speak to them online and get to know them. Asking questions online is no different than an applications. In my opinion, describing your self and answering questions for LS masters only makes the masters life easier to bring members in, where as the applicant does more work.

No thank you.

[Thainna]

The only problem with applications is that they can sometimes demand too much information when it's something simple like joining a social shell. However with the lack of administration options I guess leaders would rather be sure of what type of person they are letting into their shell since they are unable to kick them afterwards.

The way the linkshell admin options are (rather lacking), it would be a mess if there wasn't some sort of application. Not everyone works well together, and some applications are a way of finding that out before hand. If us linkshell masters have to kick someone, we really don't have a decent way of doing so in the game, but asking certain questions can prevent that when they applied to begin with.

At the moment, it's all we masters have to work with. There is pretty much no linkshell admin control in XIV unless the member is online and standing near you (which in my book, is stupid). There is no way to take inactive members off the linkshell list without destroying the linkshell and reforming again (I've done this once already...). There is a cap to how many members a linkshell to have.

[Murugan]

I didn't think I'd had to post this but it seems that certain people make me want to slice live fish in the air. Humanity never ceases to amaze me how one attraction can lead to a popularity. Getting to the point, I want to discuss about Link shell applications & registrations.

I want to talk about registration first. Registration is probably the most common and recommended way to keep a good roster of list of people that are registered in the link shell. You will also have things like events and what not to keep what is up to date. Simple and universal.

However, there is also "applying" for a link shell which seems very offending for those who work and for those just want to play the game to escape from reality (gamer haven). Making an application is no different than applying for a job. But this isn't a job, instead, a game, so why on earth are people fixated on having people filling out LS applications? You might find that other Japanese or foreign shell holders have very few sites that require Ls applications where as most English speaking players do.

What's next, I have to go wear a suit or make a lunch with the Ls leader to get into a fancy high civilized group? No. I just want to play a game, so what became of these applications making peer pressure is a mystery to me. I don't want to go into an Ls where people think applications = business or business = God knows what. All applications does is perpetuating gamers.

Enough with the applications. Stick to LS registrations instead. And if I hear "it helps get to know the player better" so God help me... You can get to know the player face to face in game don't make excuses.

And there's your rant for the day.

Well you couldn't join our linkshell because we are more than a chat channel, we think of ourselves as more of a team. Like a sports team, or a debate team, or a team of people in a video game, or... you should get the point by now.

We demand applications from applicants because while it is "not a job" I'm not gonna put my neck on the line in-game for you if you are so lazy you can't fill out an online application. My time is valuable, and so when I play I choose to spend it in the company of people who also value it.

Even if I know you it is courtesy for those members who don't for you to introduce yourself via an application before you join. If you can't even do that you most likely won't ever be online when you say you will (unreliable), wouldn't go out of your way to help anyone (selfish), wouldn't participate in linkshell matters/activities (lack of participation), and in general would be a waste of a spot that could go to someone who is a little more useful to the shell.

I wouldn't make plans to play softball/soccer/golf or anything else regularly on a team with someone so flaky that anything short of a minimal effort warranted such a rant from you.

[RemVye]

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a school for ants. the building will have to be at least,... 3 times this size.

[Eekiki]

Enough with the applications. Stick to LS registrations instead. And if I hear "it helps get to know the player better" so God help me... You can get to know the player face to face in game don't make excuses.

It isn't an excuse. That's what it's for.

Right now, because of how difficult it is to remove a troublemaker from a linkshell, those who run linkshells must be a lot more discerning when it comes to who gets a pearl. The most effective way is to have the person fill out an application.

Otherwise, you end up with situations where, for example, someone in the linkshell causes drama for the sake of it because they like crying, takes pictures of his screen with a cell phone camera to post on all the fansites to show everyone how he was "wronged", and then proceeds to never leave that linkshell alone long after he's removed, going so far as to try to get his friends to join the linkshell to continue causing drama.

We like to avoid that kind of thing. So we have people fill out applications, so we know before even pearling them that they're going to be trouble.

[Thainna]

And if I hear "it helps get to know the player better" so God help me... You can get to know the player face to face in game don't make excuses.

And this is what you're going to hear from me. I don't get to meet most my new registrants face to face, they get invited from other members. I require an application because half of my ls website is hidden to members only, but i don't make applying on the website a requirement either.

It may also depend on what company is hosting the website. Maybe to make it private, you need an application? Just a thought.

Half my members applied online first, so this is a better way to make sure they get in the linkshell ASAP.

If you're that picky, just ask that linkshell if registering online is required before joining.