Applications Vs Registrations

[Fouluryu]

If there is someone in a linkshell that you've had an altercation with in the past, or who bears a grudge against you, why would you want to join that LS in the first place?

Under the rules of the lodestone I will not discuss what's not needed to be said here. For the sake of the thread, please remain on topic.

[Eekiki]

Under the rules of the lodestone I will not discuss what's not needed to be said here. For the sake of the thread, please remain on topic.

Um...I was on topic...it was a direct response to what you posted.

I will mention though an incident occurred that was started by one person, then that person involved members of my own forcing an exile even though the person was at fault entirely and proven via youtube. For this reason, it has ruined my liking filling any applications at all. That is how I feel and it will remain so. Sure, I'll miss out on raid events but at least I am in control in what I do online.

And there are many linkshells that are like that--that are willing to invite people sight unseen or without any kind of application process. You just have to keep looking.

[Holy_Dragoon]

It's unfortunate that you had a poor experience with a specific linkshell. Not all of them are like that you know, you should not let 1 experience soil your enjoyment of the game.

[AdvancedWind]

Technically, while you're expressing your opinion, I would fit the criteria to do most events but not daily like some hyped gamer fanatic hardcore,

Ah...I used "you" mostly as an example of sorts =P

but I am only expressing how filling out applications to me is unnecessary.

Personally, I do think that for more goal oriented linkshells / "hardcore" linkshells it is quite useful for several reasons that already have been mentioned on this thread, some to point are:

- Helps knowing a bit the player
- Allows everyone in the linkshell to have a say on the process, not just the leader.
- Ensures the player gets familliarized with a few of the LS rules and if he is willing / able to follow them

Manipulation is a dangerous thing. Having others a say whether a person can join or not can be easily determined by a trouble maker that would have friends of theirs forcing a vote against or with that person based on a personal experience when in fact that member in the ls was the one at fault proven. Of course, friends of those in that Ls can easily determine the person's fate based on saying "no we shouldn't have him he argued with my friend" where as there is "oh yeah, let's have him in he helped me several times". Which argument would win here? The first comment. Because the majority forgets the good deeds that are done, and the sin that are left unforgotten.

If members of the linkshell have had some problem with the player wanting to join, it IS specially interesting to know that beforehand instead of letting the player join and then discover something bad happened between him and an older member. Sometimes, this can be worked out and sometimes it cannot, but more often than not that would simply generate needless drama.

[Birry]

Let me guess, some shell declined your app and now you are mad?

Applications are a way for shells to pre-emptively weed out people they don't think will fit into their community.

Rather than "invite everyone" mentality, some of us prefer to weed people out before they are an issue.

he has been denied from a fair bit alrdy from wutai.... brings drama everywhere

[Fouluryu]

It's unfortunate that you had a poor experience with a specific linkshell. Not all of them are like that you know, you should not let 1 experience soil your enjoyment of the game.

Not the slightest, I choose not to fill out applications. There are at least 4-5 major LS groups on wutai and they require applications. That major group is pretty small compared to other servers, which proves a point in my other topic that this server is small.

[Darkscorpion]

Under the rules of the lodestone I will not discuss what's not needed to be said here. For the sake of the thread, please remain on topic. I will mention though an incident occurred that was started by one person, then that person involved members of my own forcing an exile even though the person was at fault entirely and proven via youtube. That very person was from a different from our own. For this reason, it has ruined my liking filling any applications at all. That is how I feel and it will remain so. Sure, I'll miss out on raid events but at least I am in control in what I do online.

Not to offend you but just to read the whole thread tells me that you are a troublemaker , no matter if a LS will admit you by Website application or not you will have problems on any LS because the way you react to another person perspective of view and if the rules don't fit the way you think. As an advice go play an Offline game.....

[Fouluryu]

Not to offend you but just to read the whole thread tells me that you are a troublemaker , no matter if a LS will admit you by Website application or not you will have problems on any LS because the way you react to another person perspective of view and if the rules don't fit the way you think. As an advice go play an Offline game.....

I honestly do not know what you're talking about. I react just fine to others, and if you can't learn to debate other people's opinion, then avoid writing in the thread at all.

Edit: Please keep on topic about the thread, not about me, thank you.

[Holy_Dragoon]

Removing myself from further debate on this topic, as it is turning a bad direction. FYI as I do:
Refrain from regurgitating sensitive LS/website discussions on a topic that has merit. You discredit yourself in doing so, making it into a personal debate.

Good luck.

[Firon]

I didn't think I'd had to post this but it seems that certain people make me want to slice live fish in the air. Humanity never ceases to amaze me how one attraction can lead to a popularity. Getting to the point, I want to discuss about Link shell applications & registrations.

I want to talk about registration first. Registration is probably the most common and recommended way to keep a good roster of list of people that are registered in the link shell. You will also have things like events and what not to keep what is up to date. Simple and universal.

However, there is also "applying" for a link shell which seems very offending for those who work and for those just want to play the game to escape from reality (gamer haven). Making an application is no different than applying for a job. But this isn't a job, instead, a game, so why on earth are people fixated on having people filling out LS applications? You might find that other Japanese or foreign shell holders have very few sites that require Ls applications where as most English speaking players do.

What's next, I have to go wear a suit or make a lunch with the Ls leader to get into a fancy high civilized group? No. I just want to play a game, so what became of these applications making peer pressure is a mystery to me. I don't want to go into an Ls where people think applications = business or business = God knows what. All applications does is perpetuating gamers.

Enough with the applications. Stick to LS registrations instead. And if I hear "it helps get to know the player better" so God help me... You can get to know the player face to face in game don't make excuses.

And there's your rant for the day.

I have to agree with the OP the first ls i wanted to join a endgame ls in XI they told me to do an app on their site was like wtf......ok sure i loved ls but i think its silly.....