Applications Vs Registrations

[AdvancedWind]

You forgot to mention your Ls enforces people to go to events or they'll get a personal advisory for missing an event. I don't want that. I choose to play FFXIV to be a casual game not someone who (not you) is a pencil pusher demanding me to do things that I set my time between work & gaming.

Instead of applications, you can speak to them online and get to know them. Asking questions online is no different than an applications. In my opinion, describing your self and answering questions for LS masters only makes the masters life easier to bring members in, where as the applicant does more work.

No thank you.

Then you should not join a LS that enforces people to do events, and would most likely be rejected when applying exactly because you wouldn't fit within that criteria, instead of first joining the linkshell and occupying a spot on a game that has no decent linkshell management options to kick you once the linkshell leader notice that you barely attend to events at all.

Saves your time (since you would join a linkshell that doesn't fit your own play style) AND saves the linkshell officers time for the exact same reason.

There's a good justification for applications right there ~

[Fouluryu]

Then you should not join a LS that enforces people to do events, and would most likely be rejected when applying exactly because you wouldn't fit within that criteria, instead of first joining the linkshell and occupying a spot on a game that has no decent linkshell management options to kick you once the linkshell leader notice that you barely attend to events at all.

Saves your time (since you would join a linkshell that doesn't fit your own play style) AND saves the linkshell officers time for the exact same reason.

There's a good justification for applications right there ~

Technically, while you're expressing your opinion, I would fit the criteria to do most events but not daily like some hyped gamer fanatic hardcore, but I am only expressing how filling out applications to me is unnecessary. Manipulation is a dangerous thing. Having others a say whether a person can join or not can be easily determined by a trouble maker that would have friends of theirs forcing a vote against or with that person based on a personal experience when in fact that member in the ls was the one at fault proven. Of course, friends of those in that Ls can easily determine the person's fate based on saying "no we shouldn't have him he argued with my friend" where as there is "oh yeah, let's have him in he helped me several times". Which argument would win here? The first comment. Because the majority forgets the good deeds that are done, and the sin that are left unforgotten.

[Eekiki]

Technically, while you're expressing your opinion, I would fit the criteria to do most events but not daily like some hyped gamer fanatic hardcore, but I am only expressing how filling out applications to me is unnecessary. Manipulation is a dangerous thing. Having others a say whether a person can join or not can be easily determined by a trouble maker that would have friends of theirs forcing a vote against or with that person based on a personal experience when in fact that member in the ls was the one at fault proven. Of course, friends of those in that Ls can easily determine the person's fate based on saying "no we shouldn't have him he argued with my friend" where as there is "oh yeah, let's have him in he helped me several times". Which argument would win here? The first comment. Because the majority forgets the good deeds that are done, and the sin that are left unforgotten.

If there is someone in a linkshell that you've had an altercation with in the past, or who bears a grudge against you, why would you want to join that LS in the first place?

[Fouluryu]

If there is someone in a linkshell that you've had an altercation with in the past, or who bears a grudge against you, why would you want to join that LS in the first place?

Under the rules of the lodestone I will not discuss what's not needed to be said here. For the sake of the thread, please remain on topic.

[Eekiki]

Under the rules of the lodestone I will not discuss what's not needed to be said here. For the sake of the thread, please remain on topic.

Um...I was on topic...it was a direct response to what you posted.

I will mention though an incident occurred that was started by one person, then that person involved members of my own forcing an exile even though the person was at fault entirely and proven via youtube. For this reason, it has ruined my liking filling any applications at all. That is how I feel and it will remain so. Sure, I'll miss out on raid events but at least I am in control in what I do online.

And there are many linkshells that are like that--that are willing to invite people sight unseen or without any kind of application process. You just have to keep looking.

[Darkscorpion]

Under the rules of the lodestone I will not discuss what's not needed to be said here. For the sake of the thread, please remain on topic. I will mention though an incident occurred that was started by one person, then that person involved members of my own forcing an exile even though the person was at fault entirely and proven via youtube. That very person was from a different from our own. For this reason, it has ruined my liking filling any applications at all. That is how I feel and it will remain so. Sure, I'll miss out on raid events but at least I am in control in what I do online.

Not to offend you but just to read the whole thread tells me that you are a troublemaker , no matter if a LS will admit you by Website application or not you will have problems on any LS because the way you react to another person perspective of view and if the rules don't fit the way you think. As an advice go play an Offline game.....

[Fouluryu]

Not to offend you but just to read the whole thread tells me that you are a troublemaker , no matter if a LS will admit you by Website application or not you will have problems on any LS because the way you react to another person perspective of view and if the rules don't fit the way you think. As an advice go play an Offline game.....

I honestly do not know what you're talking about. I react just fine to others, and if you can't learn to debate other people's opinion, then avoid writing in the thread at all.

Edit: Please keep on topic about the thread, not about me, thank you.

[Darkscorpion]

I am not talking because of the LS I am in , but because you start making things up first of all on the Red Devils they have a calendar if you sign in and show up then you are in party , if you sign in and do not show up is cool as well, if you did not sign in a want to join the party is cool too, I haven't seem in anyway of the word "Forcing" apply to this LS, Matter of fact is one of the most lay-back LSs I have joint. Secondly the reason I have said that you will have problems in any LS is base on all the answers you have give to this thread...

[AdvancedWind]

Technically, while you're expressing your opinion, I would fit the criteria to do most events but not daily like some hyped gamer fanatic hardcore,

Ah...I used "you" mostly as an example of sorts =P

but I am only expressing how filling out applications to me is unnecessary.

Personally, I do think that for more goal oriented linkshells / "hardcore" linkshells it is quite useful for several reasons that already have been mentioned on this thread, some to point are:

- Helps knowing a bit the player
- Allows everyone in the linkshell to have a say on the process, not just the leader.
- Ensures the player gets familliarized with a few of the LS rules and if he is willing / able to follow them

Manipulation is a dangerous thing. Having others a say whether a person can join or not can be easily determined by a trouble maker that would have friends of theirs forcing a vote against or with that person based on a personal experience when in fact that member in the ls was the one at fault proven. Of course, friends of those in that Ls can easily determine the person's fate based on saying "no we shouldn't have him he argued with my friend" where as there is "oh yeah, let's have him in he helped me several times". Which argument would win here? The first comment. Because the majority forgets the good deeds that are done, and the sin that are left unforgotten.

If members of the linkshell have had some problem with the player wanting to join, it IS specially interesting to know that beforehand instead of letting the player join and then discover something bad happened between him and an older member. Sometimes, this can be worked out and sometimes it cannot, but more often than not that would simply generate needless drama.