This patch dropped the ball hard

[Elim]

I'm happy with everything.

I don't want to gear up in one day... or something. I actually like looking forward to something.

[Fawkes]

So it's 4 weeks of duty finder headaches for me to get an i190 body, but 2 weeks of casual roulette funtime to get an i200 body?

[Stanelis]

So it's 4 weeks of duty finder headaches for me to get an i190 body, but 2 weeks of casual roulette funtime to get an i200 body?

Seems like it, I don't really understand the logic behind the vertical gear threadmill of the 3.0 (i though the base tomestone items would be i 190, like alexander normal).

[Jetstream_Fox]

I can kinda understand your point for stuff that comes from roulette/DF. Maybe a lockout per job. Sadly for you getting the player base to come back week after week is significantly more important then the status of your alts.

I'm aware of that, for the game to boast about the option to be all classes it doesn't help that we have lockouts and restrictions as harsh as they are. Nor do I want everything immediately like how some think, I've no problem to put in work. But the content I'm working towards must be more meaningful then come back next week to another exciting adventure of Final Fantasy Ball Z. I really don't think people would turn away if the lockouts were modified or removed, I think we would see players playing more secondary classes, DF que times would be lower, hunts would still be active and players would also be doing FATES. Maybe I'm wrong but I just don't see a bad side to allowing more flexibility with gear acquisition.

[Rin_Kuroi]

I'm aware of that, for the game to boast about the option to be all classes it doesn't help that we have lockouts and restrictions as harsh as they are. Nor do I want everything immediately like how some think, I've no problem to put in work. But the content I'm working towards must be more meaningful then come back next week to another exciting adventure of Final Fantasy Ball Z. I really don't think people would turn away if the lockouts were modified or removed, I think we would see players playing more secondary classes, DF que times would be lower, hunts would still be active and players would also be doing FATES. Maybe I'm wrong but I just don't see a bad side to allowing more flexibility with gear acquisition.

Why isnt ilvl180 good enough for an alt? Im ecstatic to get law at the same time Im working on getting eso.

[Rin_Kuroi]

Might as well ask this question here but will I have to PvP to cap on eso this week? Are eso obtained somewhere else besides roulette that Im missing? Doing expert, leveling and trials only yields 50 per day. Thats 350 per week. Not enough to cap.

[Aethaeryn]

Might as well ask this question here but will I have to PvP to cap on eso this week? Are eso obtained somewhere else besides roulette that Im missing? Doing expert, leveling and trials only yields 50 per day. Thats 350 per week. Not enough to cap.

Actual level 60 dungeons give you 40 each time too without the roulette. Same as with previous tomes.

[Rin_Kuroi]

Actual level 60 dungeons give you 40 each time too without the roulette. Same as with previous tomes.

Awesome. I wasnt sure if this was going to be the case. Thanks!

[Fendred]

Just to clarify something, the objective of the patch content is different than its effect. Yes, it is an effect of the patch content that you will only be able to get 450 esoteric a week, but the rate of acquiring esoteric tomes is low. In effect, they are trying to force people to play dungeons a certain number of times a week to keep the game alive. Savage Coil is just a carrot on a stick. So in place of trying to make the end game have replay value, they are still happy with using the same thing that wasn't working for them in the long haul.

[Aethaeryn]

Just to clarify something, the objective of the patch content is different than its effect. Yes, it is an effect of the patch content that you will only be able to get 450 esoteric a week, but the rate at which you get esoteric tomes is low. In effect, they are trying to force people to play dungeons a certain number of times a week to keep the game alive. Savage Coil is just a carrot on a stick.

As it was with poetics before (and I don't mean when they raised the cap to 900), you can cap esoterics just doing expert once per day for 6 days and not doing anything else all week. I don't think that's really slow. You could also just run expert and one extra dungeon and be done in four days.

I just don't like the 450 lockout. I don't even know which job I want to main yet, and only being able to gear up one job for months yet again has really taken the wind from my sails.