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    Shila Lail
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Healer forums are not for the feint of heart. Goto bed and I'll fight the fight for you. Se knows that astrologian job is not weak and well at most alter the two cooldown s that are worthless outside of rp emotes.
    Oh please you are not "fighting" anything you are screaming from the sidelines hiding behind platitudes while others at least try to go into specifics. At this point I am 99% sure you are just trolling anyways.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    yes i know but im in multiple of threads already explaining AST ,,,,, just trying to beat it into people heads to stop thinkin and comparing us to WHM and SCH and there Stat formulas and all that crap....the whole point is to make AST not like those healers im just trying to get my point across to players and that is all Vlady is also doing the same AST have minor weakness and that is it aswell as an identity crisis ....but yeah i just want a card throwing enchantress as a healer.... and not some mix up mongrel from other healers it feels like......... a SCH and WHM fell in love and had a Child and called it AST and slapped a bunch of cards in its face

    But im out because brain is dead :O

    Your explaining is for naught. People get what the AST is about and the role is trying to fill is outshined by the two other healers who's focus lies elsewhere. And that is the problem most people are addressing. Nobody here wants to have a carbon copy of SCH or WHM but lets be honest we are a copy of WHM already minus some smaller differences. And the reason people compare AST to WHM and SCH is because we have to. Because those are the two Jobs AST has to compete with. And I wouldn't call an identy crisis for a class a minor weakness. Its a core problem that has to be adressed and which isn't easy to handle from a game balance standpoint

    Dont get me wrong I'd love for being mostly about being support. But where do you go from there?

    A: Give AST enough utility buff that they bring the same DPS increase a SCH/WHM would bring to the group but keep the heal abilties the same. So a party would have to choose between 2 healers who offer more safety or the AST who brings the same numbers but is more of a risk. Due to RNG.

    B: Give AST much stronger utility in order to increase the dps of the group much more than a WHM/SCH ever could while providing the same level of heals. This approach would certainly be more interesting in terms of what a group is willing to risk for higher DPS potentially offsetting DPS checks. If RNG plays in their favor.

    Both approaches assume that RNG stays the same as it is now. Additionally SE would have to balance encounters much differently in terms of healing and dps checks for the harder content. So from SE's standpoint they would have a much easier life if they would neglect the cards. (as they are now but give AST almost the same healing capabilites as WHM/SCH) Which leads to the identity crisis they have at the moment. ASTs are neither here nor there. And that sucks. WHM and SCH have clearly defined roles they excel at. AST does not.

    Again I want to emphasis that most of the people here want AST to be their own thing while still being on the same level as SCH/WHM.
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    Last edited by Miiu; 08-02-2015 at 04:11 PM.