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  1. #11
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    Altijacek's Avatar
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    Phil Collins
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    My argument isn't moot, it's not even my argument. And I don't necessarily mean speed runs, I should've clarified. I mean tanks who pull and not let DPS watch cutscene, or vice versa, or whatever. I know there isn't even much, but the bottom line is that they didn't wat a repeat of Castrum and Praetorium.
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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Cirra Maru
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kairobot View Post
    They should add loot to the research facility dungeon so more people run it. It's level 60 after all and a lot more fun than Neverreap...
    I like Neverreap , the only problem is the whirlwinds on the last boss.
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    Windklinge's Avatar
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    Windklinge Wirbelwind
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altijacek View Post
    My argument isn't moot, it's not even my argument. And I don't necessarily mean speed runs, I should've clarified. I mean tanks who pull and not let DPS watch cutscene, or vice versa, or whatever. I know there isn't even much, but the bottom line is that they didn't wat a repeat of Castrum and Praetorium.
    you mean because of the cutscenes inside that dungeon? well there is actually only ONE long one and thats AFTER the duty is cleared out which is not a problem i would say since others are free to leave. the loot is not worth waiting for mostly on experts anyway because of how easy law is to get.

    its not the same as castrum either way i think. there is like ONE bit longer cutscene on the final boss fight. and with a 4 man party you dont want a dps to be locked out otherwise the fight would take forever. and thats the only really long cutscene in there. unlike the old 50 ones which had MULTIPLE super long cutscenes which i agree was stupid by design somehow.

    one cutscene wouldnt be a problem and its not even 3 minutes long. the longer one is after you kill the boss which is no problem i think.

    its sad this dungeon is not used and having only 2 dungeons on expert is boring as youre WAY more likely to get the same dungeon 10 times on a row -.- makes the ROULETTE aspect kind of pointless. could just add the 35 tomes to the dungeons themselfs and let people choose....
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  4. #14
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altijacek View Post
    My argument isn't moot, it's not even my argument. And I don't necessarily mean speed runs, I should've clarified. I mean tanks who pull and not let DPS watch cutscene, or vice versa, or whatever. I know there isn't even much, but the bottom line is that they didn't wat a repeat of Castrum and Praetorium.
    The only remotely long cutscene that's not before or after is in between the last 2 fights. It's still only like 30 seconds long, but ignoring that for the moment it would still net lose you a lot of time to start the boss down a person.

    They won't have a repeat of cm and prae b/c cm had almost 10 minutes of cutscenes and prae had over 20 minutes of cutscenes.
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    Nova Dresden
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    I agree that 2 dungeons is too few, but it is on par with how ARR launched so it's not unexpected. Wanderer's Palace and Amdapor Keep were all we had for a while until they added 3 new dungeons at level cap.
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altijacek View Post
    They did it so that people won't speed run like they did Castrum and Praetorium. They fixed one complaint, and here you guys are complaining about it. Haha.
    They fixed it by making everyone who completed it to never run it again. If you change a bad thing into somethin worse, why cheer?
    "Oh, let's do something about preventing ppl from speed running." - "Nah, we do just something to prevent them from running it at all, ok?" - "Ok, great idea"


    And you can't let just one player watch their cutscene and start running of alone. He will catch up either when you die ('cause he's tank/healer) or while you still fighting the first set of adds.
    And if you start a boss fights while he's not ready, congrats for needing even more time than waiting 30s.


    And the problem with Castrum/Praetorium was not speed running, it was the fact, that you could reach the bosses even at normal pace with ppl still stuck in cutscenes, lol.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 07-24-2015 at 04:00 PM.

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