Same GC Ifrit killers gets better reward

[Delsus]

It's precisely this "we want to do this" (decentralize Ul'dah, let people freely choose their companies) but end up doing that (materia remover in Ul'dah only, better rewards with all people in the same companies) that causes me to doubt wether they can REALLY get their act together.

It's very 「中途半端」 Not sure what the English would be. Half-assed? Not well thought out?

According to google translate that means incomplete, but we all know what google translate can be like.

I dont know much kanji, but that is Chūtohanpa isnt it? then I believe it would directly translate as incomplete, or halfway.

[Duuude007]

Reposting here, since this topic has some traction.

Some info from Connect Magazine:
- When everyone from same company you get bonus as well as when you have 3 different countries grand company members

I wish to clarify this--

Scenario Party 1:
Member 1: GC is Uld'ah
Member 2: GC is Uld'ah
Member 3: GC is Uld'ah
Member 4: GC is Uld'ah

Result: Party is entirely the same grand company, and therefore receives bonus (A)

Scenario Party 2:
Member 1: GC is Uld'ah
Member 2: GC is Gridania
Member 3: GC is Limsa Lominsa
Member 4: GC is Uld'ah

Result: Party represents at least 1 member of every grand company, and therefore recieves bonus (B)

Scenario Party 3:
Member 1: GC is Uld'ah
Member 2: GC is Uld'ah
Member 3: GC is Gridania
Member 4: GC is Gridania

Result: Party represents at least 1 member of 2 grand companies, but not all 3, and therefore recieves bonus (C)


Questions:

Does Bonus A = Bonus B?
Do both Bonus A and B yield unique, special results?
Does Bonus C exist, or is this combination the exception to the rule?

[Synthesis]

If they would drop on this idea or give us proper answer. I would not mind t first or the second. Now devs, please.

[Delsus]

This is a combination of Appealing to Extremes and a Slippery Slope argument. Both are fallacies.

You have no data that shows that you 'can't get anything decent' because of this. But that doesn't stop you from projecting even further harm from potential patches later on. There's no logical validity to such an argument.

Its called the worst case scenario, which means looking at the worst possible outcome of somthing, in this case the worst case scenario of choosing a GC entirely on speculation is not being able to do somthing and the only solution is quit, reroll or not do anything. While it may be the least possible outcome it is a possibility which is why I would like to know, I would not care if I could change company but being locked into your initial choice makes us need official confirmation.

Thinking of the worst case scenario makes you not do anything rash, you should try it sometime.

[Cycloptichorn]

Its called the worst case scenario, which means looking at the worst possible outcome of somthing, in this case the worst case scenario of choosing a GC entirely on speculation is not being able to do somthing and the only solution is quit, reroll or not do anything. While it may be the least possible outcome it is a possibility which is why I would like to know, I would not care if I could change company but being locked into your initial choice makes us need official confirmation.

Thinking of the worst case scenario makes you not do anything rash, you should try it sometime.

Oh, I certainly do. Risk Aversion is part of my career. But you should label such things 'worse case scenario' instead of positing them as 'likely scenario.' And re-rolling is a little extreme, I mean, c'mon.

Do people here really think the Devs would make it so that only certain groups could get the most desired drops? Do you think they are stupid? And if they were dumb enough to make that mistake, you don't think they would patch it after it was revealed - in-game, not through bitching in forums - that this is a real issue? Have some faith here, people!

[Duuude007]

Do people here really think the Devs would make it so that only certain groups could get the most desired drops?

We don't know. Thats why we are asking for clarity. Just like in materia crafting, a specific combination of materia and catalyst yields the best reward; a comparable requirement may be in place for party GC's being represented, to yield the best reward.

If it doesn't, why would they even bring the topic up?

[Cycloptichorn]

We don't know. Thats why we are asking for clarity. Just like in materia crafting, a specific combination of materia and catalyst yields the best reward; a comparable requirement may be in place for party GC's being represented, to yield the best reward.

If it doesn't, why would they even bring the topic up?

It's FAR more likely that the 'bonuses' are additional gil and company marks, than to think that certain drops would only be available to groups composed of members of the same company.

I'm not sure materia crafting is a good analogy, as anyone who can do any of the crafting, could make any item - as long as they have the parts. It's not an exclusive thing. I highly doubt SE would make it so that only, say, a group all from the same GC would be able to get the Ifrit weapons that everyone (except for me) seems to hate so much... makes no logical sense.

[Delsus]

Oh, I certainly do. Risk Aversion is part of my career. But you should label such things 'worse case scenario' instead of positing them as 'likely scenario.' And re-rolling is a little extreme, I mean, c'mon.

Do people here really think the Devs would make it so that only certain groups could get the most desired drops? Do you think they are stupid? And if they were dumb enough to make that mistake, you don't think they would patch it after it was revealed - in-game, not through bitching in forums - that this is a real issue? Have some faith here, people!

Remember the ARC GLA CON only for darkhold, yeah they wouldnt make it so certain groups can get the most desired drops, also remember in FFXI most jobs were useless in salvage because of the initial restrictions, and people wanted to get the items to unlock abilities, sub jobs, weapons etc which locked alot of people out of salvage gear and mythics, which were desirable.

They have done it before and surely they will do it again, which is why we want a dev response on what the terminology actually means.

SE are probably expecting everyone to join differant companies which is why they have put this in, but they didnt expect everyone to congrigate in uldah, they didnt expect leve link then abandon the leve, there is alot they dont expect which can get exploited. People still ask for ARC GLA CON for darkhold, which largely can lock out entire groups of people for that, it took me about 3 weeks to get a decent darkhold run on my LNC, and I will not level somthing just because the community think it is the only way to do somthing.

So yes they will make it so only certain groups can get desirable drops, show me some evidence that shows me otherwise.

[Corrderio]

No matter what way I look at it, this still looks like a god awful idea.

[Roaran]

This does need an answer before the patch goes live. I was planning on going Limsa 100%; but if the 'rewards' are anything more than seals, I will definately be joining the rest of my LS in gridania.