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    While it does suck that they have been doing quite a lot of maintenance lately, at the same time be happy that they are going about and fixing things rather then letting them sit and make the game even more buggy. At least with the maintenance for the crafter gear, anything that turns out buggy in savage or from the release of savage will be fixed almost immediately.
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    Here's some interesting facts about MMOs:

    -Maintenance times are scheduled at times where there's low login times.
    -You're also paying for server maintenance.
    -Maintenance times is always gonna inconvenience some people.
    -Game companies are not obligated to compensate you for any maintenance times since you're also paying for maintenance.
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    I kinda agree, to be honest. I appreciate regular upkeep and whatnot, it's nice when there are no bugs/exploits for people to take advantage of, and no other issues that are interrupting my gameplay.

    However, these maintenances have become the interruption since HW, and it has gotten rather annoying that I'm basically praying for just one week without maintenance, because that has not happened in the month since HW launched. All the while all the other interruptions still poison the game: randomly unstable connection and the constant harassment from RMTs (which is still just as annoying and cumbersome to deal with / report as it has been since basically 2.0) are still there, nothing about those have gotten better even with all these downtimes.

    And on a personal note: I'm home, so these maintenances are regularly and in a fixed way scheduled to be in my prime game time: the mornings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassychan View Post
    Here's some interesting facts about MMOs:

    -Maintenance times are scheduled at times where there's low login times.
    -You're also paying for server maintenance.
    -Maintenance times is always gonna inconvenience some people.
    -Game companies are not obligated to compensate you for any maintenance times since you're also paying for maintenance.
    1) We know.
    2) Yup, we know
    3) We know (and even acknowledged this on the first page!)
    4) We never asked to be.

    Should probably read the thread D;
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    well it is normally 2 anyway because after the first they do another one to fix the first ones bugs. now if they need to fix the second ones bugs
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    I agree with OP's main point, I'd prefer one longer maint than 2 shorter ones.

    After all, being at this time is to "reduce the number of players affected" right?
    Theoretically, one longer one would be less of an impact than 2 shorter ones wouldn't it?
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    It's pretty easy to see why they are splitting the patches. This is what happens when we complain about all the crashes and stuff when 2.0 came out. We did this lol. They are being extra careful to split this major expansion into several patches to make sure it works and we are happy.

    I think this just proves we will always be unhappy no matter what... :P

    By splitting it, it's easier to troubleshoot it if something goes wrong of course. They don't want to game server to crash. Also, the load on the server won't be as heavy if content drops at different times (crafting and savage).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    It's pretty easy to see why they are splitting the patches. This is what happens when we complain about all the crashes and stuff when 2.0 came out. We did this lol. They are being extra careful to split this major expansion into several patches to make sure it works and we are happy.

    I think this just proves we will always be unhappy no matter what... :P

    By splitting it, it's easier to troubleshoot it if something goes wrong of course. They don't want to game server to crash. Also, the load on the server won't be as heavy if content drops at different times (crafting and savage).
    There are many reasons why they could be splitting the patches; hell people have speculated things from download size to 'planned emergency maintenance'. But that's all it is, speculation.

    2 days isn't going to make or break load size, that's just more downtime~

    And no one said anything about being unhappy, people can try and paint this thread as another QQ thread, but that's not the case~

    Even though the maintenances are eating into our playtime, we understand and appreciate that downtime happens, it's an MMO. But at the same time, we just wish that they weren't so.... numerous as of late. Weekly I can understand, and that's fine, but over the last 30 days, 8 of those have been taken by maintenance.

    As for the troubleshooting; they have test servers for this :x. Yes, things can still go wrong here and there, but the main bulk of testing has already been done~

    Have a wonderful day guys! :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    There are many reasons why they could be splitting the patches; hell people have speculated things from download size to 'planned emergency maintenance'. But that's all it is, speculation.

    2 days isn't going to make or break load size, that's just more downtime~

    And no one said anything about being unhappy, people can try and paint this thread as another QQ thread, but that's not the case~

    Even though the maintenances are eating into our playtime, we understand and appreciate that downtime happens, it's an MMO. But at the same time, we just wish that they weren't so.... numerous as of late. Weekly I can understand, and that's fine, but over the last 30 days, 8 of those have been taken by maintenance.

    As for the troubleshooting; they have test servers for this :x. Yes, things can still go wrong here and there, but the main bulk of testing has already been done~

    Have a wonderful day guys! :3

    PART of those days have been taken.

    I'm sat here bored as hell and I'm not complaining about maint since I know in a few hours, I'll be online. If you cannot stay up later, or wake up earlier, it's your fault.

    I mean really, if you get off work an hour before maint... Go to bed when you get home. Set your alarm 4 hours early. Boom, maintainance problems fixed.

    Only reason I'm up right now is I overslept, I meant to wake up and play for ~6 hours till maint then go back to bed till the servers were up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raeletta View Post
    PART of those days have been taken.

    I'm sat here bored as hell and I'm not complaining about maint since I know in a few hours, I'll be online. If you cannot stay up later, or wake up earlier, it's your fault.

    I mean really, if you get off work an hour before maint... Go to bed when you get home. Set your alarm 4 hours early. Boom, maintainance problems fixed.

    Only reason I'm up right now is I overslept, I meant to wake up and play for ~6 hours till maint then go back to bed till the servers were up
    You should probably read the thread too... D:

    I didn't mean 8 complete days had been taken (that's pretty obvious), and yes, oh em gee, it's totally my fault that I took a job where I wouldn't be working 'normal hours', and it's also a job where I can't screw around with my sleep schedule like that, or clock off early. (Tiredness =mistakes, mistakes can = death, literally.)

    We're not asking for maint to be changed to a different time, honestly, we're just musing about how often it's been as of late. There's a great deal of respect and appreciation floating around here for the guys that do all of the maintenance work. But you'd know that... if you read the thread :x

    I kinda wish people would stop reading the first post, cherrypicking the last post and then making an assumption on the rest of the thread's contents. This isn't your typical "OMGQQMAINT" thread.
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