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    Eudyptes's Avatar
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    Summer Lebeau
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 100

    Mudra lag fix suggestion.

    Why doesn't SE just make it so ninjutsu doesn't fail when using non-mudra skills? I feel like that would go a long way to fixing the problem.

    I do see what SE was trying to accomplish with mudra, and when I get those brief moments of no lag and I can pop off all three signs + ninjutsu before my GCD is finished (or just as it finishes) it feels absolutely amazing. But in reality that's simply not the case 99% of the time and it tends to take a GCD and a half's worth of time to cast.

    If they were to remove that failure aspect so we could cast 2-3 signs, do the next part of our rotation, then cast the last sign and/or ninjutsu, I think it would go a very long way to countering dps loss/frustration with the class.

    What's more is it would still be (technically) a dps loss this way over the way it's intended. Just not as much as it is now with lag. But since fixing the lag isn't (as far as I know) even possible, this seems like the best solution to me.
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    Sotien Alamenain
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 60
    The best fix Would be to reduce the cooldown to .4 seconds from .5. This would cut all people with decent internet connections cut into gcd.
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    Pluvia Zephyr
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysRIGHT View Post
    The best fix Would be to reduce the cooldown to .4 seconds from .5. This would cut all people with decent internet connections cut into gcd.
    You know for some reason it always does feel smoother when i have the spear from an Astro to reduce it to .4
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    Gerwulf Wolfpath
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    Why doesn't SE just make it so ninjutsu doesn't fail when using non-mudra skills? I feel like that would go a long way to fixing the problem.
    Totally agree, It would be the optimal and functional way to solve this for now and in the future.
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    Summer Lebeau
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by xWolfox View Post
    Totally agree, It would be the optimal and functional way to solve this for now and in the future.
    Yeah, I figured it would be the best, permanent solution. We would see the average of nin dps rise since many people wouldn't be as held back by latency, but it wouldn't allow it to exceed its current maximum this way. Mainly it would just be a huge QoL fix that would fix a broken system. I mean, the way it is currently is a good idea and gives the class a nice challenge, but I just don't think it panned out well in real time, and honestly not sure if it can ever work properly most of the time as is.
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    Ender Oboros
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    Ultros
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    Rogue Lv 60
    That kills the idea of how mudras are supposed to be. However with the introduction of the monk meditation mechanic had me thinking. Why not have mudras on the gcd but have a short recast timer? Obvs the ninjutsu would need a buff to make up for the loss Gcd time but now no one has issues. TA might need 2 seconds added to it just so we could fit everything in it still but that might be too much?

    It's just sad when the only thing holding a person back from doing their jobs highest potential dps is a laggy system and yes I'm super jealous of all those Nins with their butter smooth mudras something I never experienced xP
    This will help with out tp as well we are currently the worst Melee dos when it comes to tp.
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    Summer Lebeau
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oboros View Post
    That kills the idea of how mudras are supposed to be.
    I completely understand what they were going for with mudra, but at the end of the day this is a game that needs balance, and realism needs to take a backseat to that.

    Your idea isn't bad, however I can foresee it taking a lot of rebalancing to implement. Which could cause issues/take a lot of time.
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    This has been touched on several times ever since 2.4, and in that time frame, SE has only responded to the system only once. What they basically said was, "Sucks that you don't live in Japan."

    I was hoping they do some sort of revamp for 3.0. I guess they are content with 2/3 of their player base having a disadvantage on the job.
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    Bethany Amell
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    Spriggan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    This is absolutely ridiculous, I'm not even level 60 yet and I'm getting random comments from ALOT of people asking why I'm bothering to level it and that I should enjoy the dungeon kicks at 60 :S

    I don't want to pay for WTFast/Battleping or w/e there is just to play this class, I'm already dishing out money to pay for this game.

    I've only got 2 Mudra's and I'm already seeing this lag, having all 3 is goona be funny >.<

    This is the only melee class in this damn game that I've actually liked ¬¬ ..So typical.
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    Rem Crescent
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    Ragnarok
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Best fix would be to make rogue a full job, they wont fix mudras' lag ever
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