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    Player
    Taei's Avatar
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    Taei Tertots
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    Balmung
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    Carpenter Lv 90

    New Players Bonus needs to be much higher

    If you do a dungeon run with competent players, it will at most take you 20mins, but with new players in DR, it can take anywhere from 20-35 average with more time if people are not paying attention to mechanics or doing enough dps. 40 extra tomes of law is pointless and not enough compensation to deal with this.

    If SE wants to encourage more people to help other new players, the bonus needs to be at least double, both XP and tomes. Then it would mean you can spend 40 minutes inside ONE dungeon and still get the equivalent of 2 dungeons.
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    Onikimaru's Avatar
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    Ellie Fredericksen
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    Phoenix
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    This and that other post made me laugh aha
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    lordoftheapes79's Avatar
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    Lil'bit Gnawdy
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Haven't been around long have you? When esoterics come out tomorrow it will be better.
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    Player JayCommon's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Indaki Sativa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by lordoftheapes79 View Post
    Haven't been around long have you? When esoterics come out tomorrow it will be better.

    ....??

    When Esoterics come out tomorrow, they will be the weekly capped tomestone and offer some of the best gear in the game. The conversion rates will be much smaller...

    We get, what, 160 law right now for doing an expert roulette? 80 for the dungeon and 80 for the bonus? When poetics were relevant, the expert roulette gave us 75 total tomes. 40 for completion and 35 for a bonus. Expect the conversion rates for any Roulette that offers Esoterics to be much smaller than what Law bonuses are giving now. Also, don't expect every roulette to give you Esoterics. It may only be Expert/Hard roulettes that give you any. Maaaaybe Trials, but at a very small rate.

    Also, I seriously doubt that new player bonus will award Esoterics in anything, save for possible normal Alexander. I'm doubtful on that one also.

    Your post content suggests that you, in fact, are the one who doesn't seem to have been here very long. Despite your join date >.>
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    Last edited by JayCommon; 07-21-2015 at 02:19 AM.

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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by lordoftheapes79 View Post
    Haven't been around long have you? When esoterics come out tomorrow it will be better.
    ^this

    /10char
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    Dante Venarra
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    It's fine. You should be thankful they give you anything at all. Don't like it then leave and take the penalty.
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    Belcross Panda
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I guess in parallel universes, the Warrior of Light, requires payment to help those in need.
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dante_V View Post
    It's fine. You should be thankful they give you anything at all. Don't like it then leave and take the penalty.
    I think the issue the OP is worried about is not this, but that the speed-runnin' vets will kick the newbie hoping for another vet replacement and a faster run, because the new player bonus doesn't mathematically measure up to the efficiency of a faster run.

    Fortunately, players with the kind of mentality that would endorse this kind of abuse are actually pretty rare. In reality, the reaction to a new player in a dungeon tends to be positive and helpful; players are happy to help out a newbie, and the bonus is simply icing on the cake. You'd never know it by reading all the doom 'n gloom on the forums, though; just as in real life news, folks rarely bother to report GOOD things that happen, just the bad.
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    E'lir Dayspring
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    nurmind - misread OP.
    (0)
    Last edited by dayspring83; 07-21-2015 at 03:19 AM.

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    Reiku Lumenaris
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Nah. I find the bonus to be sufficient for having to type one or two lines of text.
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