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  1. #31
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    Wth are people being so aggressive toward OP? oO If I understood correctly they are just complaining about the chat filter, they have the right to not want to see certain words, that's why the filter is here in the first place. Because nowadays most people use swearing in every sentence doesn't mean everyone else does too or appreciate it.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymal View Post
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    Is being realistic about what playing an MMO and interacting with users in a Teen rated game equal to being agressive towards OP? The issue at hand here is not only that X player wishes not to see Y word. It's X players wishing not to see Y word in an environment where Y word IS allowed and SHOULD be expected. Why do you even play online games if you can't handle the content, which it is written ON THE BOX when you buy the game.

    Can they make the profanity filter more "filtery" sure. But should they spend development time to modify it for the very little number of players who can't play a Teen rated game. Absolutely not.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymal View Post
    Wth are people being so aggressive toward OP? oO If I understood correctly they are just complaining about the chat filter, they have the right to not want to see certain words, that's why the filter is here in the first place. Because nowadays most people use swearing in every sentence doesn't mean everyone else does too or appreciate it.
    I agree the first post with your own filter seems like it would be the best solution. However the level of people cussing has not changed that much just has become more mainstream like being openly gay and being very pro-black rights. I don't see a problem with it since it has given the words less meaning and thus be less blunt of an insult. Overall I do not see cussing as a problem in society if at all. Once again the chat filter would probably be the best solution, but overall I rather have more content and balance reworks over a chat filter which is why you see people being so against it.
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  4. #34
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    Please read section 3.3
    http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en

    Even though I personally don't care.

    The way the agreement is written if someone finds the profanity offensive they can report you.

    The use of profanity could get you in trouble regardless of filter. So the way I view it is if it would get filtered you could get in trouble for it.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbiant View Post
    Please read section 3.3
    http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en

    Even though I personally don't care.

    The way the agreement is written if someone finds the profanity offensive it they can report you.

    The use of profanity could get you in trouble regardless of filter. So the way I view it is if it would get filtered you could get in trouble for it.
    They also can kick you for no reason, the rule you mention is more of a way to report hate speech and abuse. Not because "he" said a bad word.
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    It states the game is for 13yr old children.

    In most societies profanity is something most parents do not tolerate around kids.

    Just because someone has not reported does not mean that nothing will be done.

    I mean come on I had a buddy suspended for 72 hrs for announcing the person that pulled the hunt early.

    The reason was name shame.

    In the end it will be decided by the gm. Assumption is the mother of all evils and assuming that its just for hate speech could cost someone.

    Abuse is also in the eye of the beholder. An example: I think a parent spanking a kid for being bad is not abuse but, someone else could and report it and you spend the next 6 month dealing with cps
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    Never seen someone report it let alone a GM care. And just talking about parenting your kid either is cussing at 13 or you probably banned them from video games at his point. I would not let my 13 year old on an mmo unless they where mature enough to play it (which then cuss words do not matter). You have very Christen sensibility, which is fine, but many people find over bearing or sheltering. I think there are may issues in the world that need attention much more then having someones kid be introduced to cussing at the age 13. There are jokes in movies about teaching kids cuss words at this point, society no longer cares as much.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbiant View Post
    It states the game is for 13yr old children.

    In most societies profanity is something most parents do not tolerate around kids.
    This is the full ESRB rating for "Teen" :

    Games with this rating contain content which the board believes is suitable for those aged 13 years and older; they can contain moderate amounts of violence (including small amounts of blood), mild to moderate use of strong language or suggestive themes, and crude humor.

    Also, when you say parents do not tolerate it around kids you are absolutely right. If you don't tolerate it, don't let your kids play it. Oh wait but OP is an adult? To me, if you don,t tolerate it, don't look atit. Don't blindly report players who use strong language just because poor little you are offended by something that is being said in a game and in an anvironement where it is expected to happen.

    Plus it is such a very small issue in comparaison to a whole world of things that devs could spend time on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justinjarjar View Post
    You have very Christen sensibility
    Nope I could give a care about profanity. In fact I think its a bit stupid for any words to be labeled as a no no word.

    I don't get mad if anyone cusses like a sailor. The only time it gets me mad is when it's aggressiveness towards me. As far as aggression toward me well when they play with fire

    Most parents I know do not allow profanity around kids. They let them play games that are rated that is what the rating system is for. Are the a bit naive... sure.

    As far as society no longer cares about it... outside society might not care about it but, in a professional atmosphere it can cost you.

    In general society is a bit wacky... they have no issues with someone getting killed on live tv but, you show some nudity and all things go out the door lol.
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    What in the world does this have to do with being offended? The language filter should work properly, and it doesn't to an extent. I don't care for swearing, but I leave it off since it will filter in the weirdest way possible with no cursing involved.
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