Lancer Tanks!

[Kytori]

A tank job for Lancer would have been cool, they could have added one handed spears as a weapon as well so Lancers could go spear/shield or big spear. But they seem to have ditched the branching jobs idea so *shrug*.

Short spears and shields like a spartan would be a neat idea so long as the gear they got weren't capes and undies XD

That's actually not a bad idea but even if they ditched the idea, the solidarity of a tank job is there and could be coaxed into having at least one more, me thinks.

[zcrash970]

Short spears and shields like a spartan would be a neat idea so long as the gear they got weren't capes and undies XD

That's actually not a bad idea but even if they ditched the idea, the solidarity of a tank job is there and could be coaxed into having at least one more, me thinks.

You just reminded me of a game on ps3 called White Knight Chronicles. It was an online RPG where there was a couple of weapon types. The main tanking weapon was short spear and shield. When you played it, it made you feel like a spartan XD

[Kytori]

You just reminded me of a game on ps3 called White Knight Chronicles. It was an online RPG where there was a couple of weapon types. The main tanking weapon was short spear and shield. When you played it, it made you feel like a spartan XD

I had the combined version. White Knight Chronicles 2 came with the first one for free that had a lot of updated stuff, like not having to press a damn tree 80x to get all the resources lol.

Honestly. That's 13 years old now, and isn't funny anymore.

I don't even get it...

[Enkidoh]

I don't even get it...

I think she was referring to FFXI's DRG and how it was entirely dependent on it's pet (wyvern), which could only be called every two hours - if the wyvern died the DRG was... pretty powerless (Jump attacks were mostly mediocre, and apart from Penta Thrust most of it's weapon skills were too).

To make matters worse the wyvern's AI was dependent on what 'sub Job' you equipped, meaning a DRG often had to use stupid sub Job combinations to get the best benefit to their wyvern). Although Call Wyvern was later taken off the 2-hour ability meaning the wyvern could be called far sooner (every 10 minutes if I remember rightly), the damage was done and it became a bad meme about how 'useless' DRG is which has carried over into FFXIV sadly.

As for LNC/DRG tanking, I agree it is actually pretty effective in that role, as long as it's set up right (the Alpha and early Beta clearly demonstrated this). But of course people just want the 'quickest and easiest choice for the best return' and thus ignore it as such a role (another example is SMN as a healer, the later I've actually played as myself in a number of dungeons). 'Thinking outside the box' isn't sadly a universal idea here.

[dragoelete]

I think she was referring to FFXI's DRG and how it was entirely dependent on it's pet (wyvern), which could only be called every two hours - if the wyvern died the DRG was... pretty powerless (Jump attacks were mostly mediocre, and apart from Penta Thrust most of it's weapon skills were too).

To make matters worse the wyvern's AI was dependent on what 'sub Job' you equipped, meaning a DRG often had to use stupid sub Job combinations to get the best benefit to their wyvern). Although Call Wyvern was later taken off the 2-hour ability meaning the wyvern could be called far sooner (every 10 minutes if I remember rightly), the damage was done and it became a bad meme about how 'useless' DRG is which has carried over into FFXIV sadly.

As for LNC/DRG tanking, I agree it is actually pretty effective in that role, as long as it's set up right (the Alpha and early Beta clearly demonstrated this). But of course people just want the 'quickest and easiest choice for the best return' and thus ignore it as such a role (another example is SMN as a healer, the later I've actually played as myself in a number of dungeons). 'Thinking outside the box' isn't sadly a universal idea here.

... i thought the reason for the whole "lolgoon" thing was about the fact that they are locked in place whenever they do a jump ability... which often caused them to be hit heavily with mechanics and die a lot...

[ChazNatlo]

As for LNC/DRG tanking, I agree it is actually pretty effective in that role, as long as it's set up right (the Alpha and early Beta clearly demonstrated this). But of course people just want the 'quickest and easiest choice for the best return' and thus ignore it as such a role (another example is SMN as a healer, the later I've actually played as myself in a number of dungeons). 'Thinking outside the box' isn't sadly a universal idea here.

I've done both in a pinch, though SMN is the only one that held the role for more than a single engagement. ((I think our Tank fell asleep in the darkhold, so the additional enemies offed the healer before we could do anything about it. I basically held the fight by myself till the Healer could return.

On topic, I wouldn't mind a Lancer based Tank Job.

[Kogasan]

You just reminded me of a game on ps3 called White Knight Chronicles. It was an online RPG where there was a couple of weapon types. The main tanking weapon was short spear and shield. When you played it, it made you feel like a spartan XD

To bad the developer's of that game had to go and ruin it by taking it offline. I probably would be still playing it today had they not.