Please no F2P for FFXIV...why? Read on...

[XxOstiaxX]

How do you figure? I'm certain FFXI doesn't have half that number (even though I can't prove it), and it's doing just fine.

FFXI Capped at 600k users for a long term of years, they more than made their money of that game.

[Seikninkuru]

I would love to see some factual data that supports your argument. So can you compare the customers of both models and point out some concrete examples or are you just spouting BS because you heard that Freemium games attract bad apples. Is that like how they also are only for people who play World or Warcraft(people who like WoW, obviously go to play F2P games and not play WoW...)

OP is wrong, because I said so(aren't opinions fun?)

Edit: If FFXIV players are considering the pinnacle of playmanship then we have serious problems. This game has the highest percentage of anti-social players I have ever met in an MMORPG. One of the few times I've seen balkanization sweep over a game.

[AsterBarnivere]

GW2 uses the B2P model and their cash shop are only for cosmetics.. I'm not sure what the underlying "hate" for the F2P model is, just because "most of the cashshops are implemented poorly" doesn't mean they're all like that.. GW1/ and Factions have held up on the cash shop B2P model alone (With insignias, and dye) and GW2 is only for cosmetics (And look at how many people want to look kick@ss?)

Edit: If FFXIV players are considering the pinnacle of playmanship then we have serious problems. This game has the highest percentage of anti-social players I have ever met in an MMORPG. One of the few times I've seen balkanization sweep over a game.

FFXI had the strongest player base out off all the games I've played (Because they were forced to party and help each-other out in order to get through the game) when I logged in FFXIV... I was disappoint..

[Fear]

How do you figure? I'm certain FFXI doesn't have half that number (even though I can't prove it), and it's doing just fine.

FFXI has about 150k subs atm, it peaked at around 500k i belive. Aslong as they game has at least 150-200k in the future it'll make a profit

[Cichy]

Yet again, watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns-II...layer_embedded
10 years ago MMOs needed a subscription to pay for servers but now it's way different.
If the money went into development of content it would be a different deal but it goes into lining SE pockets. Do you get 4 expansion packs worth of stuff every year for 15 bux a month you paying? Hell no, in XIV we dint even get 1 expansion pack worth.
If they willing to release major content every 3 months, and I mean a patch size of 1.19 with more content gear wise, raid, wise, zone wise, sure I'd be willing to pay. If we pay subscription we shouldnt pay for expansions.
However, as SE usually does they will charge you for playing the game and than sell you expansion separately.

[Murugan]

GW2 uses the B2P model and their cash shop are only for cosmetics.. I'm not sure what the underlying "hate" for the F2P model is, just because "most of the cashshops are implemented poorly" doesn't mean they're all like that.. GW1/ and Factions have held up on the cash shop B2P model alone (With insignias, and dye) and GW2 is only for cosmetics (And look at how many people want to look kick@ss?)



FFXI had the strongest player base out off all the games I've played (Because they were forced to party and help each-other out in order to get through the game) when I logged in FFXIV... I was disappoint..

I'm sorry for the people of Besaid.

Selbina rocks!

Then again everyone already knew that.

[Secret_Reeve]

woot a fellow selbinian lol.

selbina is a well populated server and heck i dont mind paying a mothly sub and buying the game and buying expansions.

its how its always been done

[FilthyDisco]

OP, You won't ever have to worry about this game being F2P. It's only a matter of time before they start charging to make up for the huge deficit from the release.

[Deli]

oh wow... /joke on Hopes Bayohne won't sent their new Online Community Specialist to hunt me down :O
/joke off

now, there is a reason I revived this thread because the big recent one disappear...
don't panic when you see the following... maybe this is for WakFu (SE's NA publisher, so it's all make sense too)...ok?

Producer - F2P

Summary
The Producer - F2P will be responsible for all aspects of external production from managing teams to internal planning and communication throughout the company.

read more at:

http://www.square-enix.com/na/careers/#cs01

/flatter on
Bayohne is so handsome, how can a GM be so coooooooool and nice! Best singer ever too... who said guardians are fair.
Rukkirii a nice sexy with tons useful abilities... super kind while charming... another example guardians are not been fair...

[TheVedis]

Ne Ne Ne ne Ne necro post!



-500 points for you!


also the reason the other one disappeared is probly cuz its buried 500 pages down cuz of how many new duplicate posts keep popping up(and the fact people are on a bit of a nerdrage lately to the point they get threads closed)