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Thread: Mch Dps

  1. #31
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    Sylve's Avatar
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    MCH DPS is easily on par with everyone else, not DRG level sure, but more than sufficient.

    So far, my only bugbear with it is that its DPS style is great for bosses that have very long phases where you can nuke to your hearts content, But Bismark style fights give me real trouble.
    I need to put out max DPS to burn adds before back phase, But i ALSO need to do max DPS on the back phase or we run out of island integrity.
    I literally can only do one or the other. I can't full burn both, the cooldowns just don't work that way.
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    Lhei Fox
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    i play mch and yes im not a top dps in my team but average dps around 750 ish to 800+
    But my burst is a notice and it's raise alot to a top dps and then it goes back to normal after 2 min or so.
    Mch arent build like mnk and ninja who can sustainable around 1000 dps nonstop.

    but i like mch
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  3. #33
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    Bel Rumpelstiltzkin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I think the dmg is fine in savage where the tp/mp utility is good. Outside of that, ie pretty much the whole game, their utility is almost nonexistant so there is zero reason their dps is on the low end.
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  4. #34
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyshan View Post
    I can barely do 100dps more than a warrior who's tanking! Yay class design!
    I doubt you do less DPS than a TANKING Warrior or else your DPS would be abysmal they only parse high when they are offtanking which means they barely turn their tank stance off and stick with DPS and even then MCH easily parse higher.
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    Last edited by Atreides; 07-20-2015 at 06:24 PM.

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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshade View Post
    So why bring a MCH when a BRD is better in almost any situation? BRDs can still actually pull competitive numbers, from what I've seen, MCH can't.

    I've always seen MCH DPS open with a high burst, but by the end of an encounter they're usually 20-35% behind literally any other DPS. I still argue that they need adjustments.
    The "better in almost every situation is base on opinion of what you think is better.

    For example MCH can give both physical defbuff and magic debuff, and they refresh whenever the turret hit as long as hypercharge is running, so the duration is longer than 10 sec, you gotta choice between those 2 compare to BRD can only give Foe (they can give it at any time however).

    MCH can give both magic dmg reduce debuff and physical dmg reduce debuff, they are only 5% but they stack with MNK DRK & DRK Delibrum, so that ll be INT down & 5% magic dmg reduction
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    Last edited by Shneibel; 07-20-2015 at 06:58 PM.

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    Miranda Madison
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyshan View Post
    Getting good doesn't change how the class is so tightly tied to the random number generator, kthnxbai!
    GIT GUD WIT NUMBARZ DEN.
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  7. #37
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    Asahina Karayami
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    Siren
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    Botanist Lv 90
    I have to say too: Mechanics there DPS is LOW!

    Whenever I have a Mechanic in of these new HW dungeons - everything takes noticeable much longer <,<
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    following the enmity bars, i usually out dps most people in DF currently lvl 56.
    Bards are like superfar behind when I play with them.

    I only wish we had some cool animations other than jump and shoot pewpew
    maybe ill see that soon with the last 2 attacks
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Hmm, MCH are having DPS issues? Last I recall I have hit as high as a 1600+ burst at the beginning on a dummy with a 7k+ Wildfire and gotten DPS numbers of 970-1015 easily. In raids, MCH's are able to bring in 850+ DPS easily right now.

    While some improvements can be made here and there, especially in regards to the RNG of Split > Slug > Clean, I do agree with Yoshi-P mostly that you need to get better at the job. Every day, people are picking the job apart and finding more ways to bring more DPS in.

    It is debatable where MCH and BRD stand in DPS in comparison to others, but MCH is not in a bad position, at least compared to BRD. If anything, MCH is more of a mobility job than BRD right now. Gauss Barrel does feel like an extension to MCH while Wanderer's Minuet feels tacked on and clunky on BRD (only opinion). Honestly, BRD needs tweaking in it's flow if anything.
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    Last edited by Velhart; 07-21-2015 at 12:49 AM.

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    Dante Venarra
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    "I can't Do high dps after only playing the class for 3 weeks. Class must be broken"

    This is arrogance defined. You aren't going to master a class in 3 weeks. Some people may but most won't there is nothing intrinsically wrong with the classes dps. You may dislike the way it plays, the proc system, or whatever and that's fine to have an opinion. But this doesn't mean something is wrong with the class especially when there are people doing extremely well with it.
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