Mch Dps

[Ruri]

Generally speaking playing with competent players in Lv60 content I've never seen a MCH be anything other than last on DPS parses. :/ I highly doubt this is exclusively a player skill thing, MCH is likely in need of a buff or retooling.

You are just playing with bad Machinists. Everytime I go mch myself or my friends they are top 2 dps. Either that other the other 2 dps are ALWAYS terrible. Either way MCH is not the worst dps

[LunaMana]

All I see here is "But I want to just press 1-2-3 and do 1k+ dps!"

Mch is not as easy as 1-2-3... It's easy to mess up, and you get punished (lost dps) hard for making mistakes. (And if you had a lot of lag making the procs show up after / roughly same time as the GCD I feel sorry for you, truly. My heart goes out to you 'Straya...)

For the record, mch is fine. It's not meant to do perfectly played DRG numbers, but it does more than enough to warrant their slot. Is it top tier drg dmg, no. But it's very competitive. It really is, a case of git gud.

i183 mch here I've hit 6.5k as my highest wildfire :3 My only complaint with the job is the rng on it's combo.

I've hit 6.2k in Alex (No ravana cheese), currently i176 / Ravabanana gun.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1551416/

I've always seen MCH DPS open with a high burst, but by the end of an encounter they're usually 20-35% behind literally any other DPS. I still argue that they need adjustments.

Cause most people mess up the 2nd Wildfire, forget to reaply Lead shot, don't maintain 100% uptime on hot shot... And / or are tunnel visioning on the 1-2-3 procs. I'm usually within at most 10% of any other DPS, except multi dotting SMNs because their AoE is retarded good right now.

[RazeLandale]

Mch is not as easy as 1-2-3... It's easy to mess up, and you get punished (lost dps) hard for making mistakes. (And if you had a lot of lag making the procs show up after / roughly same time as the GCD I feel sorry for you, truly. My heart goes out to you 'Straya...)

As angry as it'd make blms everywhere, they should let the enhanced slug shot stack to 2. Or give it the full blm treatment with a 2.5s split shot, where you will get wasted procs, but you're balanced around it. As it is it's super, super micro, but at the same time I don't know if I'm doing right trying to micro. Does latency + the moment it takes to register the proc in my head cost me gcds? I have no idea. And I wish I didn't have to deal with it either way. I end up doing weird stuff to try and dodge the mechanic, like tossing in a split shot when I have a clean shot proc, because I know I can follow with the clean shot and if slug shot procced I can use it after.

Getting rid of gauss/wm works too, one second to catch a proc is rough, 2.5 is plenty. It doesn't even fulfill it's original purpose anymore of choosing between damage and mobility, because you can toggle it on and off with relative ease. And mch is pretty mobile anyway even WITH it up because procs and feint(Although granted feint is probably a bug/oversight).

[LunaMana]

Does latency + the moment it takes to register the proc in my head cost me gcds? I have no idea.

You know how you can queue up skill a bit before the GCD so you counter a bi tthe effect of latency... For a friend of mine, his latency is bad enough that by the time the procs lights the icon up, he's already queued the next shot. So he has to stance dance because in GB he's losing procs.

Now, if GB made it so you could stack shot procs to 2.... Not only would it help with latency... but I am dreaming about wonderful wildfires lol.

[Darkshade]

I guess this wouldn't be the place to ask but I'd like to see some extended parses for MCHs claiming they're competing with other DPS. I'd love to be proven wrong, because I think the idea is great, it's just the current numbers speak ill tidings for our gun wielding friends.

[AskaRay]

I guess this wouldn't be the place to ask but I'd like to see some extended parses for MCHs claiming they're competing with other DPS. I'd love to be proven wrong, because I think the idea is great, it's just the current numbers speak ill tidings for our gun wielding friends.

Quick question. Have you played MCH yet?

[Darkshade]

Quick question. Have you played MCH yet?

Only the first few levels, but that doesn't change anything regarding spreadsheet numbers at level cap.

[NovaWulfe]

Quick question. Have you played MCH yet?

Shade is just asking for proof of some of the claims in this thread, was it really necessary to reply with something like this? It doesn't matter, I haven't leveled MCH to 60 yet, but I can still ask to see something to support the claims in this thread.

[LunaMana]

Not mine personally, I google this one... but here's an Alex3 parse from 10 days ago. That 944 dps over 7+ min... (Parse is unmerged, need to add turret if you look a bit down in the parse)

http://i.imgur.com/MmC98sK.png

[Ruri]

Not mine personally (I'm at work) but here's an Alex3 parse from 10 days ago by
/u/admiralsakazuki

That 944 dps over 7+ min... (Parse is unmerged, need to add turret if you look a bit down in the parse)

Nice I haven't gotten that high yet on that fight but still makes the point MCH is not bad, its just bad players. Sure it could use tweaks though.